Darth said:"****y and funny" for an attractive guy doesn't work. "Kind and manly" would be a better guideline.
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Why is this?
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Darth said:"****y and funny" for an attractive guy doesn't work. "Kind and manly" would be a better guideline.
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Why is this?
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Are you sure about this? I thought the same rules apply for all guys, no matter how good looking you are. I've tried your advice in the past on girls uglier than me, but they don't seem to work. I would consider myself a 7 or 8 in looks, so I guess this rule doesn't apply to me?Darth said:But the bottom line in talking to girls if you're attractive is this: you have to be "nice" at first to ease their nerves, and actively show interest. BUT, if you pick up on any kind of an ego or attitude on her part, then it's time to be nonchalant/cool/indifferent...in other words, playing the disinterest game.
Seriously. If you see that she is nervous just being in your presence (talking really fast, saying, "I feel so stupid right now," etc.), then no jokes at her expense, until she knows you better. "****y and funny" for an attractive guy doesn't work. "Kind and manly" would be a better guideline.
UNLESS, again, for some reason she thinks she's better than you.
When I say nice, I mean nice from a higher place. Think about it: if you're a really attractive guy hitting on a 7, if you blow her off or don't come off as approachable, she will give up.blue11199 said:Are you sure about this? I thought the same rules apply for all guys, no matter how good looking you are. I've tried your advice in the past on girls uglier than me, but they don't seem to work. I would consider myself a 7 or 8 in looks, so I guess this rule doesn't apply to me?
Rhino22 said:Bear in mind I'm still figuring this stuff out, so I don't have all the answers, but if you're attractive, and you're not talking to a bombshell, then "****y and funny" can come across as "stuck-up jerk."Darth said:"****y and funny" for an attractive guy doesn't work. "Kind and manly" would be a better guideline.
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Why is this?
If you're good-looking, I believe some of your work is done. You don't have anything to prove- it's obvious you are high value by your looks and your badass attitude. ****y and funny seems to me like something guys do to hide inadequacy, a quick fix.
But if you look good, and you're secure, and you have a good solid head on your shoulders....just being a MAN can go a long way. There are better ways of flirting than putting the woman down.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I respect your decision to do what you please and what works best for you, as this game is not for everyone. You realized it in time and are now doing it your way. Thank you for your contribution, as I'm sure some will give it consideration, but what does that have to do with the topic in this thread?edger said:That's either one of two reasons: She's either an attention wh*re, or like Tazman suggests, they are intimidated. The game is a b*tch. I realized in recent years, it's just much, much less of a headache to invest your time and money wisely with escorts or fly to Amsterdam and invest in their high-end smoking hot prostitutes, or as they are better known, "kamer girls". And you know, honestly, I'm much happier this way, doing what I do, rather than endlessly waiting for a hot woman to be receptive. Because in the end, I win, I GET WHAT I WANT, WHERE I WANT, WHEN I WANT.![]()
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When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Nothing, I was just getting things off my chest, as well as of course suggesting other helpful avenues.Gangster Of Love said:Thank you for your contribution, as I'm sure some will give it consideration, but what does that have to do with the topic in this thread?
I 100% digress. Gangster, I've been in this game for a looooong time. My first "puppy love" girlfriend was at age 11. Since then, I have always hooked up with chicks(although not with the greatest consistency), except for the last 2 yrs, 8 months. I've been coming to this site for the last 6 yrs. I've worked on the parts of my game that needed work(my game never really needed a lot of work to begin with). I would think I should've learned something by now(I definitely have). I've read a lot of material on here. I'm out in the real world constantly. I hit up the clubs weekly. It is tough man. I'm not a dork, don't look like one, don't act like one; not a weirdo, don't look like one, don't act like one; don't smell, don't have bad breath, not socially inept, etc., etc. I'm a good-looking guy, I'm constantly told that, without me even asking or bringing it up. I have a friend that can't understand for the life of him, why in his words "a good-looking white guy like me never pulls". It baffles the sh*t out of him, to the point where he actually gets annoyed. It will lead to heated discussions sometimes. My game isn't great, but it is better than the average guys out there, I can tell you that; yet it is very odd that I haven't pulled since April 2007. What's even more odd, is that there are guys with actual average/below average game who are pulling more than I am, and I'm sure a lot of people here for that matter....but I can tell you one thing for sure, and if anyone wants to take my word for it, that's their choice, but I'm telling you as it's been for me. Some things just aren't meant to be. As cliche or ridiculous that might sound to some, well then maybe you might want to switch shoes with me and walk in mine, and maybe you'll see.Gangster Of Love said:Most of you can get there if you put in the work.