Question for The Guys

[Gerard-890]

Hey guys it's G again, and I made a similar post to this before but it really never got answered.

Okay, I'm not having any problems with the getting laid portion anymore of my life and pretty much me and women are really great.

Guys, I have insurance to cover any false claims or any other things that could happen to my business, etc.

But guys can you help me?

I don't know how to protect myself against the false claims of:

1.) Murder
2.) Sexual Assault

I'm not as worried about the murder one as I am the sexual assault one. Listen, at ANY TIME a woman (who might be encouraged by a feminist) could go and file a report saying I sexually assaulted her in any fashion.

I will be immediately arrested and would have to post a $25,000 bond.

Then, it's very hard and difficult to prove INNOCENCE, if I actually had sex with the girl.

Guys, please, don't overlook this because it can happen to anyone of us. But can somebody tell me just what in the hell am I supposed to do to protect myself from becoming a victim of this? Please, don't ignore me this time, thanks.
- G

 

[Phyzzle]

I wouldn't walk on sidewalks either. Anyone could randomly turn the wheel of a car, shatter both of your legs, and speed off. It is very rare for a hit&run to ever be caught.

It's probably best to not go outside at all. In fact, I wouldn't answer any unexpected knocks on the door either.

 

[KontrollerX]

1. If there's no body to be found, there's no evidence.

2. You run a business? Well sir then its time to install some eyes in the sky ie get some videocameras installed that can pick up what a chick says to you so you can hang her in court if she tries to pull any funny business. Also carry a hidden tape recorder around with you if you are extra paranoid.

It may not be possible to save yourself against all of these false allegations as they can take many different forms but always try to establish a lack of credibility in the chick making such a claim against you and what I mean is does she have a history of drug or alcohol abuse, does she have any outstanding warrants, does she owe any debts, does she have any enemies that you know of that would love to help you win against her in court with any dirt they might have on her?

These are things you need to know to protect yourself and your business.

You have to be absolutely ruthless by planning ahead and thinking of all the angles of attack.

Also make sure to have witnesses to where you were on whatever night, loyal friends that would lie to the cops for you if necessary.

If you have sex with a chick that you think is a risk wear a condom and maybe suggest you two have sex in the shower to avoid her collecting DNA evidence.

Get your freak on but be smart about it.

Eliminate all traces.

 

[joekerr31]

i think you are paranoid.

i personally don't know anyone who has ever been charged with rape.

why do you think this is going to happen to you? do you know anyone personally (not through the 'grapevine') that this has happened to?

btw, proving rape is hard to do. if you're having regularly sex with a woman i dont think any of the signs of rape would be there (vaginal tearing for instance).

as for murder - wtf. why would someone bring false murder charges against you?

dude, i dont know where you live or the people you hang out with, but most people will never encounter these situations in their life time.

oh fyi - there are TONS of women who DO get raped (most commonly date rape - where the girl passes out and the guy rapes her), and they can't charge the guy because its just he said she said. without proof of rape the courts won't find you guilty just cuz she says you raped her. there has to be proof.

 

[joekerr31]

Then, it's very hard and difficult to prove INNOCENCE, if I actually had sex with the girl.


- G

you dont have to prove your innocence. they have to prove your guilt. although mike tyson went to jail without really any hard core evidence. it was basically he said she said - he said everything was concentual, she said it wasn't.

but if you have no past felonies i think the courts are fair. if you have previous charges against you, or if you bite someones ear off in a boxing ring, i think then its easier to convince a judge of guilt even though the evidence is lacking.

 

[Gerard-890]

Guys thanks for the responses.

Joekerr, thanks for your insight, but the issue is that I'm so afraid because it's a reality and it's also a little frustrating when I bring this up and many guys brush it off as "that would never happen to me."

In today's current Sexual Assault and Rape Laws, there does NOT have to be all of that stuff like in the 70's:

1.) There doesn't have to be vaginal brusing or tearing
2.) The chick doesn't have to have bruises

All the chick needs to say is that the guy had sex with me and I said NO, but he wouldn't stop. The dude does NOT have had to bruised her, torn her vagina or nothing.

I'm scared because I break chicks hearts, and there's always some feminist bytch in her ear talking about, "You don't have to take that, etc, etc." and then out of the blue I'm hit with Rape charges?

Then plus some chicks call rape when they don't want to be in trouble by their boyfriends or husbands, saying "The guy raped me."

The fact of the matter is, IF this situation happens, I have NO DAMNED WAY to prove INNOCENCE.

How? Someone tell me, and guys you must look at this in a way that it is a possibility to happen to anyone of us.

 

[KarmaSutra]

Me smells a bit of paranoia in the air. There are some underlying reasons why this is even on your mind? Are you a hypochondriac by chance? If someone sneezes in your vicinity do you think you'll automatically get the flu?

Fat chance. You can't worry about sh!t 5 minutes from now.

 

[Gerard-890]

And also, there was NO bruising from the Mike Tyson case, it was nothing but the girl saying Mike Tyson raped me that sent him to prision.

Now if that's no reason to be paranoid (knowing I'm dealing with chicks all the time) then what is?

 

[Gerard-890]

No Karma, you guys just take this for granted but I don't want to spend my time in prision for 7 years.

The way the laws are structured, at any time a girl can make up a false claim, I go to jail, I must pay $25,000 to get out, and then I face a trial that it's barely IMPOSSIBLE to prove innocence.

 

[Gerard-890]

Guys, recently a guy was sentenced to 5 years in prison for what he said was consentual sex. Here's what the Prosectuor's asked him, watch this:

Prosecutor: “Did you ask her if you could kiss her before you kissed her?”

Assailant: “No. No one asks. That is just stupid.”

Prosecutor: Well, then how did you know she wanted it?”

Assailant: “I could tell through her body language, the way she looked at me, etc…”

Prosecutor: “Oh, so you can read her mind. Without talking, you knew exactly what she wanted. Maybe you could read a few minds in the courtroom’s audience today. Would you be willing to do that for us?”

Assailant: “No. I never said I could read minds”

Prosecutor: “So how did you get consent?”

Assailant: “You just know when someone wants it? Everyone knows what I mean?”

Prosecutor: “In dating situations, do people ever guess incorrectly?”

Assailant: “Of course.”

Prosecutor: “So people can misread body language, etc..?

Assailant: “People can misread, but I didn’t.”

Prosecutor: “That is nice that YOU believe that. How did you get consent?”

Assailant: “She didn’t say ‘no’ and so that is how I knew she wanted it”

Prosecutor: “What didn’t she say ‘no’ to?

Assailant: “She didn’t say ‘no’ to me touching her?”

Prosecutor: “Oh, so you asked?

Assailant: “No, I didn’t ask”

Prosecutor: “How could she say ‘no’ to a question you never asked her?”


Okay so guys, what AFC ACTUALLY asks a girl to kiss? We just take the lead and go in right? Same with sex.....we don't ASK if I can stick it in with just go with the flow.

According to the law, that's RAPE. She can wake up tomorrow and say I raped her, even though she never said NO, she didn't say YES either, but she also didn't STOP ME from doing what I was doing.

That's why I'm f'ing paranoid.

 

[KarmaSutra]

Fortunately brother there are more eyes looking at women's motives now than ever before. The law will try to rule out her claim before doing anything long term to your record. They will not arrest you only based on her accusation. If she did not go to the hospital to get checked and have proof of rape by the rape kit nor have any evidence that she was raped immediately following your interlude, you shouldn't have much to worry about.

Proof that we must be diligent into whom we sling our c0cks in.

 

[KontrollerX]

Gerard another thing you should do is get some chicks as your allies.

Girls you aren't interested in sexually to be your friends.

Perhaps such friends can vouch for your integrity if such a horrible false rape allegation should ever come about.

 

[KarmaSutra]

Gerard another thing you should do is get some chicks as your allies.

Girls you aren't interested in sexually to be your friends.

Perhaps such friends can vouch for your integrity if such a horrible false rape allegation should ever come about.

Absolutely. Add another stripe to your sleeve soldier.

 

[Gerard-890]

Guys, Tim Weiner is a Defense Attorney from Wilimington. He said this,

"Eyewitnesses, DNA or evidence of physical trauma are not needed to convict a defendant of rape. If the only evidence was the girl said it happened and said she didn’t consent to it, then they would still be legally able to convict them,” he said.

And you guys are brushing this off? Why am I the only one paranoid around here?

Do you not realize that at any time we could be facing a prison sentence for something we didn't do?

 

[MrLuvr]

i think you are paranoid.

i personally don't know anyone who has ever been charged with rape.
.

I do. A good friend of mine. We used to go clubbing together. A girl he went on a date with a couple of times accused him of rape. A classic, he said, she said.

In the end, and $30,000 and a 2 years of his life later, he won the case because her story was inconsistent and there was no evidence. He didn't go to jail or anything during that time. But, his life was miserable.

So, it could happen.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Save as much cash as possible so that you can afford quality legal defense counsel. Prior consultations with attorneys or having one on retainer is all confidential and inadmissible in a trial. The DA can't mention before the jury that you already had retained an attorney; it's a secret

Also, know your rights. If an officer asks you to search, that means he has no right to do so unless you consent. And don't be afraid or intimidated when dealing with police, always ask if you are under arrest or being detained, this triggers some important Constitutional rights, (leave if they let you) and if you are being arrested, ask to speak to an attorney as soon as possible. Then stfu. Even if you have to spend the night in jail, that is better than being railroaded into saying something incriminating.

 

[KarmaSutra]

Save as much cash as possible so that you can afford quality legal defense counsel. Prior consultations with attorneys or having one on retainer is all confidential and inadmissible in a trial. The DA can't mention before the jury that you already had retained an attorney; it's a secret

If you lie down with dogs eventually one will bite you.

What's the lesson? Be fvcking careful where you put your peepee. Saving cash to defend yourself for some future rape charge is like waiting for your seat on the next comet.

 

[Gerard-890]

Karma, I still don't get how you can be so unaware?

Do you have sex with women? ANY WOMAN?

Okay, at ANY TIME that woman, no matter how long you've known her, can say you "raped her."

1.) A chick could get tired of guys fvcking her and then dumping her. The next guy that does it she says, "I will will pull the rape card."

2.) You could cheat on a chick, and the chick says I'll get your azz back, "I'll say you raped me."

3.) You could want to leave a chick, and a chick says the crap.

We all sit here and discuss getting laid, getting women, and having a great life, but what then? It was one famous poet that once said there's two phases in life, one is when you are making money and the next is when people are trying to take it away.

I don't want my life carried away. The rape laws have to be the most STUPIDEST laws in this country.

The guy is sentenced because IN THE ACT OF HAVING SEX the girl NEVER consented. Can someone PLEASE tell me how in the hell am I or a girl for that matter, supposed to PROVE our side?

The girl says she never consented.
The guy says she consented.

People use other personal and non-related things to decide on the case, like what she was wearing, how aggressive the guy was in everyday life, none of these things have anything to do with:

What happened in the bedroom.

It was only the guy and the girl in there, he says one thing, she says another, how the HELL do you judge a case like this based on what the hell someone says?

Do you guys NOT understand that your ENTIRE life can be GONE by what a woman can SAY? You preach don juan this and don juan that, but don juan could be headed to jail after a "kiss" on Friday night.

And Karma it's not the "dog" women that pull the false accusations, most times they find it's normal women who have internal rage and anger.

You don't know what the hell is about to happen.

 

[mrRuckus]

oh fyi - there are TONS of women who DO get raped (most commonly date rape - where the girl passes out and the guy rapes her), and they can't charge the guy because its just he said she said. without proof of rape the courts won't find you guilty just cuz she says you raped her. there has to be proof.

How do you know it's happening all the time if there is no proof, and it's "he said, she said?"


Oh and being accused of rape even without conviction is bad enough to worry about. Everyone will think you did it because men are evil, remember? It'll just be lovely explaining to your new girlfriend why you were accused of rape. You'll ALWAYS have that eye of suspicion on you. Get angry once and it's "I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT RAPE ME!!! I WAS SO SCARED!"

Heh, i can't even imagine the hellfire I'll rain down if i'm ever accused of rape. If some ho bag is going to take me down, i'm sure as hell taking her with me and there is no "mental deficiency" defense in the court o' ruckus.

 

[ER!C L!VE]

If you're really that concerned you should be asking an attorney instead of guys in a seduction forum.

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