Question for The Guys

[Phyzzle]

I'm scared because I break chicks hearts . . .

1.) A chick could get tired of guys fvcking her and then dumping her. The next guy that does it she says, "I will will pull the rape card."

2.) You could cheat on a chick, and the chick says I'll get your azz back, "I'll say you raped me."

In other words, you pretty much treat chicks like crap? Maybe you should stop doing that. I'm sure having less people who hate you would take a burden of fear off your chest.

 

[guru1000]

No Karma, you guys just take this for granted but I don't want to spend my time in prision for 7 years.

The way the laws are structured, at any time a girl can make up a false claim, I go to jail, I must pay $25,000 to get out, and then I face a trial that it's barely IMPOSSIBLE to prove innocence.

Bail would be 100,000. Don't sweat, you can sign your house on it and they will release the lien when you surrender. Ahh, prison isn't so bad. Plenty of time to read and relax. Besides it would be a state case, so you would only serve 2 on good behavior. But then again what if someone decided to sexually assault you there and put the blame on you. Worries, worries.

 

[KarmaSutra]

Karma, I still don't get how you can be so unaware?

I still don't get how you can fret over dumb sh!t which you only expect to happen? This isn't even a reality and you're deciding your future on it.

Does it happen? Certainly? Does Bigfoot walk in the Pacific Northwest? Do little Grey men with big black eyes hover over the planet stalking us and making deals with black organizations within our government? Possible. Do these possibilities reflect how I live day to day?

FVCK-HELL-NO.

Just like your scenario of the wiley woman screaming rape because you peed on her bathroom floor.

 

[MrLuvr]

I still don't get how you can fret over dumb sh!t which you only expect to happen? This isn't even a reality and you're deciding your future on it.

Does it happen? Certainly? Does Bigfoot walk in the Pacific Northwest? Do little Grey men with big black eyes hover over the planet stalking us and making deals with black organizations within our government? Possible. Do these possibilities reflect how I live day to day?

FVCK-HELL-NO.

Just like your scenario of the wiley woman screaming rape because you peed on her bathroom floor.

Weren't you the guy running around like a chicken with it's head cut off and claiming that there was a "pedophile" prowling your neighbourhood?

Of course, after reading the story, it was obvious that you were hyperventilating. And acting like a dumb chick.

And now YOU are coming here telling this guy that he is fretting over dumb stuff. That is FUNNY!

 

[KarmaSutra]

Weren't you the guy running around like a chicken with it's head cut off and claiming that there was a "pedophile" prowling your neighbourhood?

Of course, after reading the story, it was obvious that you were hyperventilating. And acting like a dumb chick.

And now YOU are coming here telling this guy that he is fretting over dumb stuff. That is FUNNY!

One, you ignorant cvnt, I was never flailing around like a chick.

Two, you ignorant cvnt, I wasn't fretting over it. The point of my thread was the subterfuge of Mrs. K's friend regarding his past.

Three, you ignora-, well, you get the point.

 

[Gerard-890]

Okay guys, this is the Mature Forum let's act like it.

There are tons of things to worry about in everyday life, tons. However with a simple/common sense "risk" analysis you can sum up that the "risk" of certain things happening to you are slim to none.

However, "false rape" charges have been occurring (according to statistics) strangely very frequently in the last couple of years. The "risk" of this happening is now higher than it used to be, thus anybody who is in direct relations with women out to be at least "aware."

I'm applauded by some of your attitudes of, "just don't worry about it." That's like saying:

>> STDS and AIDS are growing in the community like crazy, but JUST DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, the chance of YOU getting Aids is slim to none. Like I have an "AIDS Be-Gone Spray" that I spray over my body before having sex.

The basis of the false rape allegations is that the women were angry at either the man in question or men in general, most of the anger came over being dumped in a relationship or men not "being what the women expected."

With this country's current WE HATE MEN mentality, combined with the higher surges of "false rape charges," combined with the difficulty of proving innocence, we stand in risk of:

1.) Having any girl that we haven't "fulfilled to her expectations" getting bitter and filing a fake rape charge.

2.) Then having the risk of being arrested and either paying $25,000 to post bail or sit in jail to await the trials.

3.) Then having a "jury" and a "judge" (both who most likely could have the mentality of WE HATE MEN), being the people that have to decide our fate.

4.) Then having the difficult to impossible time to prove innocence.

The risk is that one could be serving years in prison for someting that he didn't do.

This (like tons of other risks out there), is more REALIER than you think.

 

[Phyzzle]

I do agree that there seems to be a lopsided burden of proof against the man, sort of like with domestic abuse or child support.

I suppose this is one problem that won't get fixed until the "doomsday scenario"; two homosexual men fail to legally consent, and each accuse each other of sexual assault. By the letter of the law and precedent, they will both have to be convicted and serve years in prison for the simultaneous rape of each other.

 

[thehexman]

I have a story to tell:

I go to engineering school, and there are few women around. Because of this, most are stuck-up. We also have this professor who organizes a student exchange program with industry internships included, on another continent (China and US), all tuitions paid, scholarship, prestige, the works. Now one girl decided that she wanted to be on this program, and as the selection process includes a private interview with the professor she said:

"I bet I could go in there, do the interview and then tell him that I will claim that he grabbed my ass and forced me on his desk and that I will accuse him of sexual harassment and rape, and then force him to get me on the program because else this will go to court and he will go to jail. I'll cry, tear my clothes (skirt!) and tell them that I cried for help and nobody came, just an innocent little girl..."

Me: "I bet if you do that then he will convey to the court that you are in engineering school because essentially, you are a high-class hooker and golddigger who is here because you want to get fvcked by as many guys as you want and because you are looking for a guy smart enough to make loads with an engineering degree to marry and thus get carried through life. I think that is reasonable to some, especially to divorced men (imagine if it were the judge!). Also I bet he can find a lot of guys here that will claim you came on to them and you got mad when they didn't get on you. Then you will look like a slvt. Oh and by the way, if you come in here with a skirt, there are a lot of engineering creeps outside, you really want that?"

Needless to say, that shut her up pretty good. I also did some Internet searches on rape, and lots of the worries of the OP are valid. But the same is true for women: rape trials try not only the accused, but also the victim. The court will look at her personality, behavior,fake tears, real tears, her testimony will get scrutinized. She may come out looking like a slvt and faces possible charges herself if she faked evidence of a felony. This is the card that I played. We were not alone when she and I had our conversation either, so she can't get me later either.

 

[MikeEdward1973]

Gerard,

You're wrong. Are you aware of the Duke Lacrosse 'rape' case? I would strongly suggest you research the sequence of events that occurred in that case before you continue with this line of reasoning.

Everything you say makes no difference - DNA, reputation of the plaintiff, and corroboration of witness testimony - all played critical roles.

 

[iqqi]

Phyzzle and Karma are right on this one. Don't make a bed if you are afraid to sleep in it. Or what's underneath it. (Kind of a lame analogy, lol, but you get what I'm sayin').

Just like a smart woman will know when to go home (even if she WANTS to stay and keep making out), a smart man will know where to draw the line as well.

It is mostly about judgement. Use your good judgement.

The honest truth is it takes a fvcking B!TCH and low class h0 to straight lie about a rape. So DON'T mess around with those types!

Just like in my shoes as a woman, I would try to steer clear of a fvcking B!TCH as$ dude or low class h0 of a man, who would pull some rape sh!t on me.

Choose what situations you put yourself in, you know?

In other words, you pretty much treat chicks like crap? Maybe you should stop doing that. I'm sure having less people who hate you would take a burden of fear off your chest.

 

[aliasguy]

Phyzzle and Karma are right on this one. Don't make a bed if you are afraid to sleep in it. Or what's underneath it. (Kind of a lame analogy, lol, but you get what I'm sayin').

Just like a smart woman will know when to go home (even if she WANTS to stay and keep making out), a smart man will know where to draw the line as well.

It is mostly about judgement. Use your good judgement.

The honest truth is it takes a fvcking B!TCH and low class h0 to straight lie about a rape. So DON'T mess around with those types!

Just like in my shoes as a woman, I would try to steer clear of a fvcking B!TCH as$ dude or low class h0 of a man, who would pull some rape sh!t on me.

Choose what situations you put yourself in, you know?

Sounds a little like when people used to say to rape victims: "Why did you put yourself in that situation?"

I have no strong views about this thread, but I DO see a pattern in the Iqqi stuff.


Another typical Iqqi post. Inconsistent with her other posts and full of obvious knee-jerk responses. I feel like I could start writing Iqqi's posts FOR her. So predictable.

 

[iqqi]

Another typical Iqqi post. Inconsistent with her other posts and full of obvious knee-jerk responses. I feel like I could start writing Iqqi's posts FOR her. So predictable.

No sh!t. Its called common sense!

 

[Gerard-890]

I've sort of come to my own conclusions.

First off Phyzzle, IqqI, and others who believe similar to them, you are missing the THESIS of this thread.

My point of this thread wasn't the fact that I would go out and screw a H0e, a s l u t, a known girl that has problems, that's retarded.

The point of this thread was the regular, everyday, normal, sane, GIRL. The one that on the outside to everybody looks normal, has a great record, no past history, no NOTHING. On the outside to any jury or judge, the FIRST question that arises is "Why would THIS girl make up such a claim?"

My point is this girl in question having an internal "bitterness" towards men that is hidden quite greatly. Internally she is a feminist and a strong one, her ONLY reasoning in pulling someting like this is to sort of "GET BACK" at the types of guys that she perceives are LOVED BY THE GIRLS and who might not BE WHAT SHE WANTS THEM TO BE.

We can have consentual sex so the DNA is present, then afterwards she beats the hell out of herself, goes to the police and puts on an incredible act, and go through the entire situation with the courts just so she can "GET BACK" at the "guys."

The problem is the INCREDIBLE difficulty in:

1.) Avoiding something like this from happening. You don't know who's secretly pissed off at all men.

2.) Proving your innocence. You had sex so DNA is there, she beat her own azz behind the scenes so bruises are there, she was in a "raped fashion" when she got to the hospital because she faked all her tears and everything, and she is known to EVERYBODY as a good, wholesome, girl.

The community says, "This girl wouldn't make this up." The judge, jury and the rest all believe this. On the other side, there's me, a salesman, past DUI, been to jail for driving under a suspended license before, a GUY with a HIGH SEXUALITY.

I'm done.

And internally the girl gets her "revenge" against all men, by having the satisfications of seeing me carried away for years or life in handcuffs.

You guys sit there and say, "This won't happen to me." The fact of the matter is, this is happening EVERYDAY. Thousands of false rape charges are filed EACH WEEK in this country.

We are don juans and we love sex.....feminists hate us because we are NOT AFCS.

You don't KNOW when IT could happen to you. BUT, it can happen.

And if it does, I don't think there's anything we can do about this.

 

[Mr.Positive]

Do little Grey men with big black eyes hover over the planet stalking us....

Hey Karma, don't you mean GREEN men? When did aliens turn grey? Aliens are green...d@mnit!

I really think the point of this thread is to use common sense, and not to worry too much about these types of situations. Yes, it's unfortunate they can happen, but...use good strong judgement with the women you deal with.

If you follow your 'gut'..the chances of this happening is very slim, because you will avoid situations, and women, that could do this to you.

Worry about being struck by lightning instead...

 

[Centaurion]

Even though Gerard might come off as a paranoid fvcker, there is some truth in what he says. A friend of mine got charged with rape, but the funny thing is that he was with me in another town during this so called 'rape'. Based only on the words of a chick, the police busted into his house and threw him in jail for a couple of nights. Luckily the chicks confessed that she made it all up because she was jealous of him and wanted his attention. Nothing happened to the chick, but my buddie almost got his whole life wrecked because of a fvcking bi!tch.

 

[STR8UP]

Sounds a little like when people used to say to rape victims: "Why did you put yourself in that situation?"

I have no strong views about this thread, but I DO see a pattern in the Iqqi stuff.


Another typical Iqqi post. Inconsistent with her other posts and full of obvious knee-jerk responses. I feel like I could start writing Iqqi's posts FOR her. So predictable.

Easy there, Iqqi has given us the perfect solution to the problem. Simply avoid those women who have the potential to do us wrong. Quite the revelation. I guess I should have been smart enough to figure out that my best friend from high school was capable of embezzling $100k from me 20 years after I met him. Would have saved me a lot. Guess I need to learn how to spot them better.

 

[iqqi]

Easy there, Iqqi has given us the perfect solution to the problem. Simply avoid those women who have the potential to do us wrong. Quite the revelation. I guess I should have been smart enough to figure out that my best friend from high school was capable of embezzling $100k from me 20 years after I met him. Would have saved me a lot. Guess I need to learn how to spot them better.

That's what I've been trying to tell you! I am SO EXCITED that you might be seeing the point, even if it is still layered in bitter sarcasm.

 

[Gerard-890]

Mr. Positive let me ask you a question.

Do you think any guy who got a false rape allegation had a "gut instinct" it was going to happen to him? How can you have a "gut instinct" on a false andn pumped up charge? How do you "sense" something like that.

I think either the majority of the repliers aren't understanding the context of the thread or they are just trying to avoid "thinking" about such a horrible thing to be accused of.

A Paranoid person is one who is worried about something with no merit.
A Aware person is one who is worried about something with high potential.

If you don't think there's a high potential for this to happen, you just aren't aware and maybe I need to post information on a number of guys this has been happening to?

It's sort of saying, "None of my friends have HIV, so don't worry about it, just go out there and have fun." The people that say this aren't Aware, just like the people that say "false rape allegations" have been rare are just as unaware.

 

[ER!C L!VE]

yes yes we all know the potential is there. We get it.

What you're doing is similar to going to a car racing forum and warning guys about the dangers of car crashes. Do car crashes happen? sure... and MUCH more frequently than false rape accusations! Do false rape accusations happen? sure.

It's the risk we take in the lifestyle we lead. Thank you for your concern and PSA, but wtf man?? Why are you projecting your own fears onto us? Why are you acting as though we should all be as worried as you?

Guilty conscience?

 

[Gerard-890]

No, no guility conscience. The only reason I was worried was because I kept hearing information about the situation and I originally posted a thread here that got no replies.

My general question was more in the tune of WHAT could a guy do in a situation with a false rape allegation? Have you guys known guys or even been involved in situtations such as these?

Just wanted to expand my information base so IF I get hit with something like this I could combat it more.

My "amazement" with why a lot of guys were sort of blowing it off was more "applauded" then anything, on how you guys seem to not see this as a high potential?

I was just sort of let down, I thought the discussion would have blasted off.