"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Question about the friend zone

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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@mrgoodstuff I think you're right. But I was drinking to get myself in the mood. I think her little games are really putting me off.
This can be a reason, drinking also can kill the sex drive.
If she play games id show her how i play games by Nexting her.

Still Next is the best way to go
 

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@lamath I always in the mood when I drink. I think the lies. Her family. Her friends. The mess. Etc: now the male friend. Her complaining about me to her friends which I know there telling her to ditch me has taken it's toll on me.
 

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You make it sound so easy, it won't be like that for every guy
When it comes to banging girls you are "friends" with:

I think that if you enjoy her friendship/company, and also happen to want to bang her, that's okay.
But if you are her friend and you think you love her, that's a toxic situation.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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