“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Question about last night at a bar

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So last night, I actually got out of the house. A friend and I went to this small bar by his house and shot some pool. I'm still having approach anxiety, especially at bars. Approaching women at bars is something totally new to me. Its something I never did in my younger days or was ever good at. Let me get to the point.

There was this group of at least 15 guys there with a group of 7 girls. They all knew each other. The guys were kind of scattered around the bar and so were the girls. I couldn't tell who was dating who. Some of the girls would move around talking to different guys. Why would this huge group of guys be there with a small group of girls? Were they orbiters? I didn't see any of them kiss or touch each other. I saw girls I would bang, but I didn't approach because of the big group of guys they were with and they were getting so much attention from a bunch of guys there. What do you guys think of this situation and should I just have approached anyways? I didn't want some of those guys to want to fight over a woman.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Young OG said:
So last night, I actually got out of the house. A friend and I went to this small bar by his house and shot some pool. I'm still having approach anxiety, especially at bars. Approaching women at bars is something totally new to me. Its something I never did in my younger days or was ever good at. Let me get to the point.

There was this group of at least 15 guys there with a group of 7 girls. They all knew each other. The guys were kind of scattered around the bar and so were the girls. I couldn't tell who was dating who. Some of the girls would move around talking to different guys. Why would this huge group of guys be there with a small group of girls? Were they orbiters? I didn't see any of them kiss or touch each other. I saw girls I would bang, but I didn't approach because of the big group of guys they were with and they were getting so much attention from a bunch of guys there. What do you guys think of this situation and should I just have approached anyways? I didn't want some of those guys to want to fight over a woman.
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In scenarios like this, approach the guys first.

Just strike up some B.S. about football or whatever sport game was on that day. Dudes always reciprocate about sports unless this is some hipster bar. Once you talk to the guys a bit, you will get a better sense of the relationships. Could always just ask "so who you guys out with tonight?".

Approaching people should never be about "getting into their pants". Always have the mindset that you are just having fun and are striking up conversations.
 
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Young OG said:
So I guess I was right not approaching? They seemed like attention *****s with such a large group of guys...
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you could still just aproach to just talk and work on your anxiety, you don't need exactly aim for getting laid, you can just talk and see where it goes.

a group this big looks more like party with work colegues then really friends hence the whole scatered you notice
 
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The problem with approaching mixed groups is never the guys in my experience--guys know the score when it comes to other guys and as long as they can tell you're not a try hard and don't view them as 'competition' most of them are pretty accommodating. Still, I'd recommend keeping group approaches short, casual, and isolating your target relatively quickly.

It's the girls that'll **** block isolation game--especially if you move a little too fast with their friend. But the key to approaching in any context is to really believe that what you're doing is completely natural and that the people you approach are benefiting more from the exchange than you are.
 
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ill give you some advice from the other side of this situation. Sometimes I go out to bars with a FWB of mine and she brings two of her friends. When guys approach them, I tend to help them out. Hell even if they try to hit on my FWB I help them out, why? because who cares. I feel like some guys wont do this, but some will (like myself) so I wouldn't be afraid of the guys, it's the girls' friends who are your issue (for the most part).

Now how do you get past them? Lets say there is a group of 3 girls (to make it easy we will assume no guys). How are you going to approach them. Out of the three girl (1,2,3 labeled respectively) lets say you want girl #2. So what you do is NOT go for girl #2 at first, you warm up to her friends FIRST. THEN go for her. But NEVER just speak to her whilst you are in that group of 3 girls. If the other girls don't get some attention from you you will get the dreaded "comeon lets go " or her friends will nudge her to go some place else, go to the bathroom and never come back, you see what im getting at? SO you must win her friends over first, then go for who you want.

This has been key for me in bars. I see my successful friends do this all the time. My friend is magical at this. He will walk up to a group of 5-6 girls, make them all feel like they are getting the attention they want, target one specifically, talk to her a little more (teasing , touching, more eye contact on her etc ) but still engages the whole group. It's ****ing brilliant when done correctly.
 
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If you see a woman that you are interested in approach her. Don't worry about anything other than the body language clues she is giving you. Don't over think anything. If she's with a group, then approach the group, talk to everyone, then try to get alone with her, if she won't break away, just move onto the next one. Don't waste time with women who will not invest in you.
 
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Espi said:
Respectfully disagree. I personally see no need for this.

I'll rarely enter bars, but if/when I do, I prefer an open and direct approach. Good eye contact, a smile, and one word: "Drink?"

Not saying my way is easy but I'm convinced no formula is.
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It was not advice geared towards what you "personally see a need for". The guy said he's still having approach anxiety. Its much easier to approach men than hot women if you are a shy man.

As for your personal approach....I like it. Very similar to myself.
 
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