Push and Pull - The Experiment

[cuffs.allister]

Interesting read. Like her reaction to you not inviting her to the party. Looking forward to more result.

 

[exile663dfx]

Doc's in the office.

Its called the push and pull experiment for couple of reasons.

She is a 9.5, therefore we know she is more aware of herself than lets say a 7. Her psychological mindset is centered at knowing that she is superior in looks than other babes around her, therefore she has nothing to lose over any guy she dates. Even though I disprove this by emotionally challenging her, and showing that she is like every other woman. She initially know's men are looking at her everywhere and can, if she chooses to, land with any one of them because as men we are STUPID.

You have to initiate push and pull with a 9.5. It's all done by you, the only man she chose out of how many? But should that be your mind set? (she chose me over all of them) No, it shouldn't. It should be, "I landed this chick so what"?

By pushing her psychological, mental and emotional state of mind, you show that she is nothing but a average woman when it comes to different situations. For example, one emotional state is jealousy. If she posses it, she's no different than a 7 EVEN THOUGH she might not act like a 7 (7's are more emotionally unstable), she still displays this emotion. You know then and there that you pushed her limit of confidence.

Pulling is done by you. When you pull her into a situation she know's is uncomfortable for her, you will notice either two things. A woman who is untrue to herself, and displays this by overreacting or a woman who is trying hard FOR YOU. Here's an example for this. I took her to Denny's for valentines day. Dennys < Comon who the hell goes to Denny's that's embarrassing for a valentines Day. (Many people think it is, I dont) You will either see her tell you..

What the hell is this? Denny's, thats all you got?? < Woman who overreacts

OR

Thank you for taking me out, Ive never been taken out to Denny's on valentines day. < Woman who is trying hard for you.

Understanding this process will ultimately land you in the sack. I promise.

As I stated before do not try and use this on lessers than 8, you will be stalked by them for the rest of your life.

 

[Leopold]

wait? Im kind of confused..

Isn't pull the actions that indicates to her that you are attracted to her?

And push is to create this paradox on her mind to make her wonder if you really like her or not? Doesn't this helps in making her chase for you?

Like.. you first pull then push.. and repeat back and forth?

P.S. I sent you a PM

 

[exile663dfx]

wait? Im kind of confused..

Isn't pull the actions that indicates to her that you are attracted to her?

And push is to create this paradox on her mind to make her wonder if you really like her or not? Doesn't this helps in making her chase for you?

Good question Leopold and im excited to answer it.

In this situation attraction is build by her understanding that you're different. To a 9.5, attraction is virtually non-existent due to the fact that she can have any attractive guy out there, therefore she is searching for differentials. If you are as I stated above..

Confident
Have own life
Different
Somewhat good looking

To a 9.5 being just all that is enough to attract her. Believe it or not, Leopold, dealing with a 9.5 and a 7.5 are two different things. Two different emotional beings.

The paradox in this situation doesn't have to mean make her chase you or make her wonder. I dont have to try and make her wonder about anything, this is why I havent lost a sweat by using the push and pull way, I am more aware of myself rather than her. I do my way, she follows.

 

[dutchmaster]

This thread is gold. Good job man, keep us posted!

 

[ShiftyShaun]

Awesome stuff, fun to read too.

Just one question. If, hypothetically speaking, you make the rare find of a girl who is a 9.5, but acts like she's a 7, do you approach the situation in the same way? And before anyone tells me "it's an act", although unlikely, there are super hotties out there who are confident, but at the same time humble and down-to-earth.

Thoughts

 

[exile663dfx]

Awesome stuff, fun to read too.

Just one question. If, hypothetically speaking, you make the rare find of a girl who is a 9.5, but acts like she's a 7, do you approach the situation in the same way? And before anyone tells me "it's an act", although unlikely, there are super hotties out there who are confident, but at the same time humble and down-to-earth.

Thoughts

Great question. As we all know 9.5's are the confident ones, usually unphased by change the society is trying to implement. You will see them progress while the 7's regress. Usually the 7's confidence comes from the "nice guys" or their friends, while the 9+ come from self worth and beauty, and they know it. While if you ever find a 9.5 who acts like a 7 (Which is EXTREMELY rare), she has a couple of issues I would suspect that need to be investigated. Confident women need to be dealt with confidence, while the lesser ones who know they are lesser have more issues and are more emotionally unstable. They need to be dealt with care, as they do have issues.

You will see more issues with the 7's than 9.5's and I'm serious about this.

 

[cuffs.allister]

Okay so, when you met her, she was a 9.5. Is she still a 9.5 or did her value go down based on her reactions to your actions of indifference?

 

[exile663dfx]

Okay so, when you met her, she was a 9.5. Is she still a 9.5 or did her value go down based on her reactions to your actions of indifference?

Of course not, she's still a hot babe, that's just how she reacts. I know i'm dating a 9.5 and so does everyone else in our social circle. However i'm getting bored of her, and looking to end things soon.

I've been busy but ill post more results, I thnk you guys will like how things are going.

 

[AlphaNate]

Hahaha! Great stuff!!!

How are you giving us the details? Are you going off memory? I'd like to do something like this, but I'd have a hard time remembering any details.

 

[exile663dfx]

Yes memory. My inital quest with this woman is to understand how hot chicks react to different situations, what changes their behavior and mood. So far, this girl has not stopped telling me how much she like's me and how much im different.

 

[Alex DeLarge]

Good stuff exile! But yeah, like you (or a previous poster?) mentioned earlier in the thread.. This stuff does not usually work on any girls below a 9-9.5. When I acted like this around girls below, I would get dumped or accused of being a player (then they'd do something fvcking stupid like make out with some guy in front of me). Not cause I'm AFC (although, i still am a little bit on the inside.. I don't let it come out anymore), but because they were insecure and thought I had 10 other girls on the side.

The other day, saw an HB9 at school who I was hanging with for a bit.. Never got passed 2nd base with her.. But had an interaction similar to your experiences with this HB9.5

(Walking by in the hallway at university)

Her: Hey ___ what's up?
Me: Not much, kickin around school til about 4 then I'm gonna head off to work. You?
Her: Going to work right now actually.
Me: Cool, well I'm gonna go study for a bit.
Her: Okay (still standing there as I'm about to walk off)
Me: Well, see ya! (no hug or anything)
Her: (Still standing there like she wants something) Okay.. Bye.

Then as I started to talk she starts waving down the hallway yelling "Bye!" with a big smile on her face like she was happy that I did that. I really don't get why women like this sh1t haha.

 

[exile663dfx]

Alright gentlemen, it's time for some lab results.

I've been with this girl several weeks now. Changes noted.

Multiple things I would like to touch up on.

First off her tests have been transparent.

Test 1.

She told me while I was working on my motorcycle that her male friend called her sexy boo through a text, here's how the conversation went.
While I was working on my bike she was next to me.

Her: Um baby my friend just texted me and said "hey sexy boo", do you think thats wrong?
Me (while working on bike): Of course not, I call most of my girl friends cuties.

Her face expression totally changed. Why would she tell me this.

Test 2.

She went to a club and told me her ex boyfriend was there, she was drunk and horny for me. Here's how the conversation went.

Her: I'm going to a club tonight.
Me: Cool shlt, make sure you have a DD.
Her: I will, my friend wont drink, i'm getting ready i'll text you when I get there.
(Didn't text her back)
Her: Hey i'm here OMG my ex is here and he's trying to talk to me.
(30 Mins later cause I was at the gym)
Me: Why wouldn't you talk to him?
Her: Oh I thought you might not like it.
Me: You thought wrong girlie, have fun ok.
Her: I am i'm pretty drunk and horny.
Me: Haha powers of alcohol.
Her: For you though.
Me: Come get it.

Believe it or not that was a test in her mind she wanted to see if ide get jealous. Sad.

I have picked up on 2 tests so far, about 2 and a half weeks of dating. They're transparent if you know what they are.

Here are some tips to overcome tests:

1. Erase jealousy
2. Don't over-react to situations.
3. Pay attention to what you're doing instead of what she's doing.
4. Remember she's a woman, you will get tested.


I have been busy with multiple things and work and have not had time to spend with her. I have noticed several changes in her behavior.

She misses me ALOT more, and tells me ALOT more.
She's careful with her words with me.
She can't sleep because she thinks about me? <-- WTH


More to come.

 

[exile663dfx]

I really don't get why women like this sh1t haha.

Because it's different than what other men do. Good job.

 

[Kenny Powers]

dude this thread is amazing and you identified and played those shiit tests perfectly!!!!!!!! Keep us updated, im really learning a lot

 

[exile663dfx]

dude this thread is amazing and you identified and played those shiit tests perfectly!!!!!!!! Keep us updated, im really learning a lot

Good to hear. I'm posting this for you guys.

 

[runner83]

Good thread mate, keep it going.

 

[exile663dfx]

Hey fellas sorry for the absence, I've been busy with work and just recently opened a new mobile DJ business which has been taking most of my time. Investing alot of money in something surely keeps you busy :crazy:


First of Groovy, thanks for the PM.



Update on the 9.5.


I am bored.. Yes bored with this girl. Maybe its because prior I have been spinning so many plates it was always different, daily, and now it's the same thing everyday. I can't take it.


Since my prior business opening, she has not been on my mind nor have I been wasting my time texting her much. I have been in my studio mixing for my upcoming nightclubs events, buying equipment and recruiting new DJ's for employment.

My life now.

Mon - Sat 9:00am to 5:00pm regular job, then 7:00pm to 12:00am studio/new business.

Sat - 9:00am to 5:00pm Regular job, then nightclub event or house party

Sunday - 6 Hrs in the studio, rest whatever.

As you can see, where is my time for her?

It's been noticable that she's getting mad by me not paying attention, but it seems to attract her more. Yes you've heard right, she's been all over me more and more. Currently all I hear is.

"My boyfriend is famous I am so lucky"
or..
"I cant believe how lucky I am to be with you"

Wth??

It's incredible how a 9.5 reacts to me ignoring the CRAP out of her.. I promise i'll be current with my updates.

TheDoc

 

[Jair213]

Wooooot. Good job here man.

 

[exile663dfx]

Pvssy is not worth acting like a HPD/BPD psychopath.

I dont know how my behavior defines HPD or BPD.