Pugsley_f5
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Update...got a ring purchased and gonna be proposing soon! Any clever proposal ideas guys?
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I'm 26 too, and not looking for one night stands. But I'm not looking to get married either. Think about it, do you want a woman you've known for a year to be the last girl you're ever allowed to talk to romantically and sexually? I'm all about dating and LTRs, but it would take 3-4 years of being with a woman, finding out EVERYTHING about her...what she's like when she's mad, what it's like to live with her, her family, her social life, what she's like on an "off" day, before I'd ever even consider marriage.Pugsley_f5 said:LOL Dude im 26 years old...not 19 out there looking for a piece of tail....I have no doubt I want to spend the rest of my life with her....otherwise I wouldn't be proposing to her....trust me I have gone thru numerous girls between the formation of this thread and now to know what I like and what I dont like in a woman...
The thing you guys assume is that everyone is like you....that every guy who is overcoming his fear of women is doing it so he can get a one night stand....well there are others that don't want that and overcoming their fear of approaching women is to seek an LTR...Let me ask you a question to clarify.....lets say you were out there approaching and talking to women and you met this chick that totally blew you away...shes hot and she's just the type of girl you like and she is totally into you....would you keep going out there approaching other chicks or maybe just maybe you might slow things down and pursue something longer term with this gal?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Ugh...it's unbelievable how wrong you are. First of all he doesn't ask if she "has a boyfriend". There is a huge difference between that and asking if they are single.nilescrane said:It didn't take any skill to do your sneak up from behind approaches and ask a woman if she has a boyfriend. While it's more than some guys do, you were the creepy guy that women say "Some weird guy at the bookstore approached me today." And you're probably still that guy, only you've just replaced lack of game with getting attached to one woman and withdrawing from the game completely.
Son,Blank said:Ugh...it's unbelievable how wrong you are. First of all he doesn't ask if she "has a boyfriend". There is a huge difference between that and asking if they are single.
It doesn't take any skill? Wtf are you talking about? Walking right up and being direct takes balls, obviously you have none. Being a man who knows whats he wants and is willing to go get it says all the right things, I bet not one of those girls ever thought he was creepy.
You have a long way to go. Consider cutting out the negativity if you want to get anywhere with this stuff.
Lol that's exactly the same response I told this clown when he commented negatively on my approach journal. There's always going to be haters, what can you do...nilescrane said:Son,
I've forgot more about women than you'll ever know.
Walking up to a woman and asking "Are you single?" or whatever takes balls, but not skill. Add in the fact that he looks like Pugsley from the Addams Family (and he had pics to prove it.) Best case scenario, she's "flattered" and it made her day. Most likely scenario, she thinks "Some ugly creep went up to me at the bookstore today."
I've known a lot of cute/attractive/hot women and know how they think. You're 22. You have a lot to learn.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Hahaha please...nilescrane said:Son,
I've forgot more about women than you'll ever know.
Walking up to a woman and asking "Are you single?" or whatever takes balls, but not skill. Add in the fact that he looks like Pugsley from the Addams Family (and he had pics to prove it.) Best case scenario, she's "flattered" and it made her day. Most likely scenario, she thinks "Some ugly creep went up to me at the bookstore today."
I've known a lot of cute/attractive/hot women and know how they think. You're 22. You have a lot to learn.
Oh you mean the approach journal that you created 4 years ago? And you still can't consistently close? Oh, cool.Jayer said:Lol that's exactly the same response I told this clown when he commented negatively on my approach journal. There's always going to be haters, what can you do...
high quality humor right there.Ever onward said:I bumped it as a joke. That's hilarious.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Age isn't always a factor in maturity as some people are quite mature at 22. Unfortunately you fall into the majority that are not.Blank said:Oh you mean the approach journal that you created 4 years ago? And you still can't consistently close? Oh, cool.
You openly admit to cheating on your girlfriend.
By all means, everyone should learn and get good at this pick up stuff but wow...that's just not okay. I'm not hating on your thread, maybe it's valuable to beginners but men cheat when they're insecure boys on the inside. That's exactly what you are.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you couldn't commit to a girlfriend, you also fell WAY short on your 100 approach commitment(that you'll finish no matter what).
And to the both of you: age is meaningless as far as pick up is concerned. There are RSD instructors that started working for the company when they were much younger than 22. I have a few friends younger than me that are very good with women. Each of them has most definitely slept with more women than the two of you combined.
I'm surprised by the lack of knowledge that some of the veterans have on this forum. "Are you single?" is a very basic opener and a lot of the guru's talk about having massive success with it. How don't you know this? It's old school David D stuff.
Have either of you been through any of David D's stuff? Mystery? RSD? Anything at all? Doesn't seem like it.
I read the entire thread. You didn't post 100 field reports, you said you would. End of storyJayer said:Age isn't always a factor in maturity as some people are quite mature at 22. Unfortunately you fall into the majority that are not.
You are criticizing something you didn't even read fully. I fell way short on my approach journal?? lol I completed it and then some.. The skills I acquired from doing it are a part of me and I'm able to approach consistently when I'm out. And FYI I can close at a very consistent level, as I am able to acquire a girl's number and run my game as I see fit.
If you are talking about just ONS or rapid F-Close then again you are wet behind the ears because that isn't as prevalent as a lot of ficticous posts make it out to be. Even the great Mystery (who you probably would lick his sack if he let you) says it takes on an average 72 hours to seduce a girl. But again I've become very selective about who I hook up with so just F-Closing as many girls as I can is not my goal.
As far as being insecure and cheating on my girlfriend... well you're probably right. I still have a lot of sublime things in life to figure out. However the paradox is I am mature and secure enough to admit this![]()
I'm done addressing you. Anyone that really cares can look at your last response and realize you make absolutely no sense. What a poor attempt to save faceBlank said:I read the entire thread. You didn't post 100 field reports, you said you would. End of story
There you go, contradicting yourself. Not that this should surprise me. I'm the immature one but you're talking about licking someones ball sack. Yeah, you're right. CLEARLY I'm the one that needs to grow up, not you.
And FYI: Not a huge fan of the mystery method but according to his theory it takes 3 - 10 hours of face time before f closing a girl generally. It can be done in one night or over several.
You're done because I backed you into a corner and you now have nothing. Apparently you can't admit when you've been bested. Again, not surprised.Jayer said:I'm done addressing you. Anyone that really cares can look at your last response and realize you make absolutely no sense. What a poor attempt to save face![]()
Lol yeah this corner you backed me into is real tight... You can't best someone by stating a bunch of false facts that make absolutely no sense. I do take back what I said though. I now find your dillusional moronic statements humorousBlank said:You're done because I backed you into a corner and you now have nothing. Apparently you can't admit when you've been bested. Again, not surprised.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.