"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Pub for a first date?

Vanilla

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Normally I don't do this, but this girl is very clingy to me. She's pretty low on looks so I have nothing to lose. I already scheduled to meet me after she gets off work for a drink. Should I be expecting anything? I've never done such a thing for a first date. At the time I couldn't think of any place that was open late, coffee seems like a morning thing and too late for dinner, movie not personal.

Is she desperate by being cool with it? She texted me first thing this morning to confirm it was still happening.

She contacted me first from plentyoffish, then kept sending me mass texts regardless if I respond or not, so it's pretty damn obvious she's interested.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Gustav Yavo

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Honestly, i don't think its very classy, but she doesn't seem like that kind of girl so i'm sure you'll be fine.

She seems extremely interested, and im willing to bet that if you play your cards right expect to slip her some sausage.

Girls like getting drunk, ****ing, and then rationalize to their friends that they were drunk to make them look less slutty, because it was a "mistake".

Anyways good luck man
 

Jay Dee

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Shouldn't spend a lot on the first few dates. When she's consistently showing that she's worth the effort, then you can reciprocate and start doing the odd meal, trip, etc.

A mate of mine got a call from a chick he'd had a fling previously with to say she was breaking up with her man, he suggested getting away a couple hundred miles away from home, with all the fuel expenses on him driving there and back, he'd have spent about £50 ($70)

So what did the beetych do? She organised to meet up with another ex who lived at the location and had a night out with him instead. Of course my pal was fuming, nearly almost didn't take her back home and has demanded some of the fuel cost back, whether or not he'll get it back...

He could have saved all that disrespect and hassle by suss'ing her out at home first - of course a lot of us on here would have been wary and expected some sort of rebound situation from a newly free chick, but if he'd taken her out back at home he could have judged her interest level over a period, and she'd have shown her true colours eventually.

He may have even had a hotel room for the night, with more costs on top. You can bet your bottom dollar after meeting with her ex, that she wasn't gonna sleep with my pal, even if she stayed at the hotel overnight. Didn't get full details as you feel some pity for a pal in such a situation and don't want to rub it in.
 

Allurre

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lol. Vanilla, what are your immediate goals with her?

If you met her on plentyoffish... it's obvious she's interested, if not desperate.

Just take her out for a walk in the park & get to know more about her.
 

Vanilla

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I rescheduled our first meeting to a mini golf on wednesday. She's just not appealing to me however, don't know why. I know I shouldn't judge based on looks but it's tough.

So instead I just enjoyed myself at the bar last night, which was one of the best nights I've ever had. The morning after, not so much.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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