"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Pub for a first date?

Vanilla

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Normally I don't do this, but this girl is very clingy to me. She's pretty low on looks so I have nothing to lose. I already scheduled to meet me after she gets off work for a drink. Should I be expecting anything? I've never done such a thing for a first date. At the time I couldn't think of any place that was open late, coffee seems like a morning thing and too late for dinner, movie not personal.

Is she desperate by being cool with it? She texted me first thing this morning to confirm it was still happening.

She contacted me first from plentyoffish, then kept sending me mass texts regardless if I respond or not, so it's pretty damn obvious she's interested.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Gustav Yavo

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Honestly, i don't think its very classy, but she doesn't seem like that kind of girl so i'm sure you'll be fine.

She seems extremely interested, and im willing to bet that if you play your cards right expect to slip her some sausage.

Girls like getting drunk, ****ing, and then rationalize to their friends that they were drunk to make them look less slutty, because it was a "mistake".

Anyways good luck man
 

Jay Dee

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Shouldn't spend a lot on the first few dates. When she's consistently showing that she's worth the effort, then you can reciprocate and start doing the odd meal, trip, etc.

A mate of mine got a call from a chick he'd had a fling previously with to say she was breaking up with her man, he suggested getting away a couple hundred miles away from home, with all the fuel expenses on him driving there and back, he'd have spent about £50 ($70)

So what did the beetych do? She organised to meet up with another ex who lived at the location and had a night out with him instead. Of course my pal was fuming, nearly almost didn't take her back home and has demanded some of the fuel cost back, whether or not he'll get it back...

He could have saved all that disrespect and hassle by suss'ing her out at home first - of course a lot of us on here would have been wary and expected some sort of rebound situation from a newly free chick, but if he'd taken her out back at home he could have judged her interest level over a period, and she'd have shown her true colours eventually.

He may have even had a hotel room for the night, with more costs on top. You can bet your bottom dollar after meeting with her ex, that she wasn't gonna sleep with my pal, even if she stayed at the hotel overnight. Didn't get full details as you feel some pity for a pal in such a situation and don't want to rub it in.
 

Allurre

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lol. Vanilla, what are your immediate goals with her?

If you met her on plentyoffish... it's obvious she's interested, if not desperate.

Just take her out for a walk in the park & get to know more about her.
 

Vanilla

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I rescheduled our first meeting to a mini golf on wednesday. She's just not appealing to me however, don't know why. I know I shouldn't judge based on looks but it's tough.

So instead I just enjoyed myself at the bar last night, which was one of the best nights I've ever had. The morning after, not so much.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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