"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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PUA vs. Don Juans

SeymourCake

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What are the differences between the two?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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flashpoint

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BeginningDJ said:
One gains satisfaction from women, the other, himself.
so you are saying DJs jerk off while PUAs get pussay? that's mean man.
 

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flashpoint said:
so you are saying DJs jerk off while PUAs get pussay? that's mean man.
No he meant that a DJ is happy with or without a girl, has an awesome lifestyle that doesn't just involve women, and has no need for women to live a happy life. A PUA is one that speed seduces women and whose life revolves around picking up women. This is the only aspect that they improve in their life. DJs are well rounded PUAs, improving everything in their life and PUAs are just tunnel visioned to women only.
 

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Johnchops gets it
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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flashpoint

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JohnChops said:
No he meant that a DJ is happy with or without a girl, has an awesome lifestyle that doesn't just involve women, and has no need for women to live a happy life. A PUA is one that speed seduces women and whose life revolves around picking up women. This is the only aspect that they improve in their life. DJs are well rounded PUAs, improving everything in their life and PUAs are just tunnel visioned to women only.
i was taking the obvious opportunity to make a joke. most of the time this differentiation is academic anyways. some PUAs are major douchbags that try to trick women into having sex with them, others have strong inner game and wisdom of outer aspects like body language, social dynamics and such.

some DJs are just misogynic frustrated chumps or KJs or both, others are doing well on their inner journey to a wholesome satisfying life that they can share with one or more special women.

these labels dont mean much to me, it is what you see and hear them doing that matters.
 

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Financially speaking:

PUA's sell you packages for $29.95, and convince you it is always your fault.

DJ's share experiences for free, win or loose, and give advice based on both.
 
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