"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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PUA vs. Don Juans

SeymourCake

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What are the differences between the two?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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flashpoint

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BeginningDJ said:
One gains satisfaction from women, the other, himself.
so you are saying DJs jerk off while PUAs get pussay? that's mean man.
 

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flashpoint said:
so you are saying DJs jerk off while PUAs get pussay? that's mean man.
No he meant that a DJ is happy with or without a girl, has an awesome lifestyle that doesn't just involve women, and has no need for women to live a happy life. A PUA is one that speed seduces women and whose life revolves around picking up women. This is the only aspect that they improve in their life. DJs are well rounded PUAs, improving everything in their life and PUAs are just tunnel visioned to women only.
 

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Johnchops gets it
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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flashpoint

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JohnChops said:
No he meant that a DJ is happy with or without a girl, has an awesome lifestyle that doesn't just involve women, and has no need for women to live a happy life. A PUA is one that speed seduces women and whose life revolves around picking up women. This is the only aspect that they improve in their life. DJs are well rounded PUAs, improving everything in their life and PUAs are just tunnel visioned to women only.
i was taking the obvious opportunity to make a joke. most of the time this differentiation is academic anyways. some PUAs are major douchbags that try to trick women into having sex with them, others have strong inner game and wisdom of outer aspects like body language, social dynamics and such.

some DJs are just misogynic frustrated chumps or KJs or both, others are doing well on their inner journey to a wholesome satisfying life that they can share with one or more special women.

these labels dont mean much to me, it is what you see and hear them doing that matters.
 

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Financially speaking:

PUA's sell you packages for $29.95, and convince you it is always your fault.

DJ's share experiences for free, win or loose, and give advice based on both.
 
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