PUA is *actual* doublethink

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Doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct. The term was coined in Orwell's novel 1984.

The crux of PUA is the notion that women want a 'high-value' guy (e.g. tall, handsome, wealthy, etc.). High-value guys exhibit specific personality traits (e.g. they don't exhibit needy behavior). The theory is that if you, as a low-value guy, can consciously force yourself to exhibit these same personality traits, you can 'trick' the woman into thinking you are high-value.

But the only way to consciously force yourself to exhibit these personality traits is to *actually* believe you are a high-value guy, even though you very well know you are not one. Anything less than an actual belief will result in you stumbling and returning to the behavior exhibited by low-value guys.

Essentially, you need to KNOW you are The Great Catch (to use a Pook term) even though at the very same time you KNOW you are short, ugly, jobless, etc., and that The Great Catch is not any of these things. But you cannot consciously recognize this contradiction in the heat of the moment, because then the whole facade collapses.
 

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sighsigh said:
The theory is that if you, as a low-value guy, can consciously force yourself to exhibit these same personality traits, you can 'trick' the woman into thinking you are high-value.
"The theory is that if you, as a low-value guy, can consciously force yourself to exhibit these same personality traits, you will eventually become a high value male"

There....fixed for you. "Think and you shall become".
 

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TheException said:
"The theory is that if you, as a low-value guy, can consciously force yourself to exhibit these same personality traits, you will eventually become a high value male"

There....fixed for you. "Think and you shall become".
+1. You think you are something, edventully you become.
 

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The reason why Pook says that is because the mind can't tell the difference between imaginary and reality (there is a difference actually, but you brain cannot really distinguish that difference. Basically, your brain runs in circuits and when you imagine something, your brain runs these 'circuits' in the opposite direction when compared to reality.) which is why when you start to think something, after a while, you soon start to believe it.
 

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"You are the great catch, Think and you shall become" :)

Like the 1984 reference :p
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
I think you misinterpreted the PUA theory, they mainly just want lays....by the time the girl finds out the guy is insecure its being explained by a therapist while he's been in another zip code for 20 yrs.
PairPlus is right, as usual. PUAs only have to fool the girl long enough to get into her pants - usually a very short period of time in the alcohol fueled environments that PUAs like to frequent.
 

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Just a side note, "fake it until you make it" will ruin many guys who take it the wrong way. It's pretty hard not to take it the wrong way though.
I think you should always be aware of your current feeling\emotions, never try to be consistent\logical. Be aware when you do something just to get a specific outcome and when you do it because you have passion to do it (even telling a joke is an example). Be aware when you're naive, when you're socially retarded, needy, feel inferior/not entitled or whatever. Just be aware, don't fight or try to solve this. It will solve itself over time if you're just aware of it.
You'll probably feel like your emotions are super lame and unattractive many times, but stay true to yourself. Accept what you feel, and fix every insecurity you can (fat, clothes, lack of experience in something). not just to attract girls, but because your heart tells you to. Insecurities are much beyond a disadvantage with chicks.
Learned this after 5 very ineffective years of lying to myself, either forcing myself to be unaware or trying to fake traits\feeling internally . :nervous:
 

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sighsigh said:
Doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct. The term was coined in Orwell's novel 1984.
Example: You think it's ok for the TSA to violate your Fourth Amendment right to avoid unlawful search and seizure by body scanning your child and grandmother at the airport - just in case they are a suicide bomber with explosives packed inside their assh*les (even though that's never happened in the history of the United States). But you simultaneously also believe that we should have wide open borders, because think of the children (and their lying, conniving, scum bag mothers your tax dollars will pay for). After all, you know from TV that terrorists only use domestic airliners. They would never dream of carrying a nuke across the border. They are not like that.
 
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