“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Providing/being an experience to a woman: what are your go to places and activities?

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I make this thread as a "follow Up " to the "opening car doors"thread.

Few weeks ago I took this woman to a lake/ beach near me. Coktails,swimming ,some good convos and ended it with fecking her in public in a spot where we "could" get caught.

Before we went she seemed lukewarm about me. After the trip she is all over me and keeps thanking me for the wonderful day and that she didn't had such a nice weekend this year yet

I was actually surprised how much impact a seemingly simple date setup had. I had fun too, and I started to think about all the moments I "Tyroned" women (no effort, no money spend, nothing, just to the crib fecking, leave) Hence my reference to the car door thread . We "teach "eachother to be as aloof as possible, but aren't we pushing it too far? Is it even fair to let a woman judge us it we DON'T provide (nice /fun/unique/great ) experiences? Girls just wanna have fun..


What are your go to places and activities? Especially the type of places that made ALL the difference?
 
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I was surprised how much impact ACTING NORMAL actually had. On top of that I enjoyed watching this woman being all happy and shyte. Yes it cost me some money, but not even that much.
 

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I acquired a lot of knowledge on a lot of hidden gems from dating while being broke. ****tail and wine bars that give out a biergarten vibe but aren't expensive have tended to play to my favor the most. I am not a big fan of park walks on the first date because the weather and crowds can be annoying. TBH, it is going to be whatever environment you feel the most comfortable and confident in. I have done terrible at bars, but I have had decent success at restaurants. Last, knowing how to cook will wetten and retain women too.
 

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I'll be bringing my wife to Yosemite National Park and I have the entire multi-day trip planned out. She won't have a clue what we're doing or when, I'm just going to tell her what to pack. It forces her reliance on me, but also rewards that behavior.
If you let women plan trips, it's going to be a strict itinerated packed day with little room for enjoyment and lots of room for potential stress.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Right. I meant that I'm not telling her a damn thing other than what to pack and the park we're going to. The itinerary will be entirely mine so she is in a position of forced - enjoyable - reliance on me for my use of primal skills (navigation, hiking, general wilderness ****), while being rewarded with an awesome trip she only had to pack for.

Of course, this requires some level of competency - so city boys might want to study up if taking this approach.
I feel that.

You should indeed add the element of surprise (positive anxiety) if possible. E.g; Towel and a bath suit could mean the spa, the beach ,a swimming pool, or a pool party ect.

And it keeps you in the lead. As you said, a man must study up to pull this off. Your creativity gotta reach beyond "having a drink". Even a hike isn't that fun or special but rather a default activity that's forgettable. Although it does depend where the hike takes place.
 

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Beaches, national/state parks for hiking, walks around nice downtown neighborhood, and high-end rooftop/balcony bars are my go to. Later down the road, any kind of travel to scenic and nice areas at an ABnB or locally owned hotels where you can walk around a downtown area and people watch or window shop and explore a lot. I generally avoid going places they've already seen or heard of or places that don't have walkable places nearby. I avoid anywhere in the suburbs like the plague.
 

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Your average to attractive girl has probably already been to the popular spots in town or city by age 27, so keep that in mind.
 

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Your average to attractive girl has probably already been to the popular spots in town or city by age 27, so keep that in mind.
So what? If she's into you, she'll spend 2 hours sitting in your lap/next to you while making out on a bench in the park.
Or as Doc Love said:
The fact that you guys are having a great time even when you’re doing less-than- exciting things is extremely important. Know why? Because it means that it doesn’t matter what you’re doing with this girl for her to want to be with you. It means that she has high Interest Level in you, not in how much money you’re spending on her. You can be peeling potatoes or walking your dog and it wouldn’t make any difference to her because she’s interested in you for you. When you go out with a mercenary, all she’s concerned with is whether you’re going to the best restaurant in town and whether she’s going to be able to order the lobster francaise or the filet mignon.
 

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I am not going to waste an experience on a random chick on Date #1. That's always a simple drinks date IMO. In fact, until I have slept with a chick I am hard-pressed to do anything other than drinks -- dinner included. This girl needs to prove herself before she gets a more involved experience with me.

Once I have slept with her and I actually like her, I don't have any problem doing something more involved. Beach time, hiking trails, putt-putt golf, arcade, etc.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Your average to attractive girl has probably already been to the popular spots in town or city by age 27, so keep that in mind.
This is mostly true. It wouldn't be true if the woman is fairly new to the city. There are certain Sun Belt big cities that have a constant influx of new people.

There are even many White women in Dallas who have been to more of the bougie, yuppie places in Dallas than I have been.

There are multiple Instagram accounts in Dallas that give out place recommendations of bougie type cool places.

I am not going to waste an experience on a random chick on Date #1. That's always a simple drinks date IMO. In fact, until I have slept with a chick I am hard-pressed to do anything other than drinks -- dinner included. This girl needs to prove herself before she gets a more involved experience with me.

Once I have slept with her and I actually like her, I don't have any problem doing something more involved. Beach time, hiking trails, putt-putt golf, arcade, etc.
Drinks in a bar is my standard first date, usually following some sort of daygame approach/conversation. I have arranged some dates through swipe apps too this way. In most daygame interactions, I won't know enough about her activities to consider planning an activity date in almost all cases.

I might do a smaller activity date for a Date #2 if it makes sense but would repeat a different drinks date like you do. It's possible to do a drinks date for Date #1 and a home dinner date with sex for Date #2. Sometimes, I'll need a 2nd date to bridge from the drinks date first date to a home dinner date on a third date.

Miniature/putt-putt golf is quite low key for a second date and acceptable to do even without sex. I'd rather do a mini golf date than a dinner date in a restaurant second date.
 

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Pool had worked well for me in the early stages of dating, with the option of going somewhere else nearby afterwards (e.g., drinks, a park, etc.)

There was a comfortable, unique and quiet cafe I used to like as well in the city, with semi-private rooms & couches throughout it. Their speciality was tea, would bring out tea-pots and little bowl mugs to drink from.

I also knew a private, quiet & lesser known walking trail along the beach into a small wooded area, at the end of it there was somewhere nice to sit down and look across at the city skyline across the bay of a lake. Was nice to arrive there right around sunset.
 

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So what? If she's into you, she'll spend 2 hours sitting in your lap/next to you while making out on a bench in the park.
Or as Doc Love said:
Oké but you can't do this all the time..got to diversify it a bit.

To be clear this is not necessarily about the first date. Could be a woman you've been seeing for some time as well.

I really believe a creative man wins more
because a "unique " memory will be stronger. Its just nice to have in your DJ tool box, the wisdom to read a woman and know what activity will fit her best. Again , especially when you've been seeing her for some time.
 

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I think guys sometimes underrate how important it is just to be a guy a woman can have fun with. Whether that's a day at the lake, going to a dive bar or whatever. So many men come across as weirdos, uptight, or players that if you seem like a normal guy who can actually have a good time it'll set you apart. Making a woman laugh and feel like she can relax and be herself around you is a very powerful feather in your cap.
 

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I think guys sometimes underrate how important it is just to be a guy a woman can have fun with. Whether that's a day at the lake, going to a dive bar or whatever. So many men come across as weirdos, uptight, or players that if you seem like a normal guy who can actually have a good time it'll set you apart. Making a woman laugh and feel like she can relax and be herself around you is a very powerful feather in your cap.
This, once I opened up to women more and allowed myself to be more comfortable, my flake rates decreased and I got less BS shvt tests.
 

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Elaborate please?
I was on analysis paralysis from all of the PUA theories because I didn’t want to validate her or get friendzoned. I was also going around thinking every girl was having sex with at least 3 different guys, so it was pointless. I also sucked at texting women because I would be scared of breaking texting rules and appearing needy. My crazy blonde polish ex broke me out of this paralysis and I had much more success after her lol.
 

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I was on analysis paralysis from all of the PUA theories because I didn’t want to validate her or get friendzoned. I was also going around thinking every girl was having sex with at least 3 different guys, so it was pointless. I also sucked at texting women because I would be scared of breaking texting rules and appearing needy. My crazy blonde polish ex broke me out of this paralysis and I had much more success after her lol.
Oké if you made a thread about her I'd love to read that!

It does take a (crazy) woman sometimes to make us face reality ,as in your case its actually a good thing. That's why i don't understand how men can say its "fine" to live without women. I've learned TONS of practical things from women, from finances to hygienic shyte ,let alone shyd I learned about MYSELF through women...Shyte some male friends/ acquaintances never ever talk about.

If you are more fun, the women in your life will be more fun..Crazy how that works.

So basically men wanna reduce women to walking holes , and then wonder why they're never able to keep one around for more than 2 months..
 

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Miniature golf
Pool
Hiking at rough terrains
The lake/beach
Small intimate cafes
The forest


We're getting somewhere, gents!!
 
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