"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

Read more...

Provider/protection need?

Hoodie

Don Juan
Joined
Dec 2, 2020
Messages
166
Reaction score
90
I know it's hardwired into our dna, and it makes us feel good.

But how do you deal with this if you're spinning plates? Do women become your full time hobby/job?

I can deal with this if it's only one girl, but if it's many. I think it would affect other areas of my life, like work, hobbies, etc.
 
Last edited:

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

Read more...

Hoodie

Don Juan
Joined
Dec 2, 2020
Messages
166
Reaction score
90
What do you mean? Mate guarding? Territorial pissing? Or just father figure?

No, women shouldn't be your full time hobby or job, unless your job is pimp.
It could very well be a beta instinct of wanting to provide and care for. I'm not sure mate guarding is the best description, as I'm not a very jealous person.
I get that, maybe the key to spinning plates is to make less effort(Less providing), thus displaying higher value, making it easier to spin plates.
But I don't know if I have it in me yet, as the beta provider is very strong. I.e it makes me feel good.
 

r4zorsharp

Banned
Joined
Oct 3, 2020
Messages
245
Reaction score
319
Age
35
It could very well be a beta instinct of wanting to provide and care for. I'm not sure mate guarding is the best description, as I'm not a very jealous person.
I get that, maybe the key to spinning plates is to make less effort(Less providing), thus displaying higher value, making it easier to spin plates.
But I don't know if I have it in me yet, as the beta provider is very strong. I.e it makes me feel good.
Thats the worst thing to be with women. Sooner or later you just find that the girl is using you for your money and you become "that guy".. on a small scale the guy that buys girls drinks, and thinks they like him, but they think of him as their personal drink buyer. on a larger scale its far worse
 

CBear

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jan 3, 2018
Messages
461
Reaction score
714
It could very well be a beta instinct of wanting to provide and care for. I'm not sure mate guarding is the best description, as I'm not a very jealous person.
I get that, maybe the key to spinning plates is to make less effort(Less providing), thus displaying higher value, making it easier to spin plates.
But I don't know if I have it in me yet, as the beta provider is very strong. I.e it makes me feel good.
It's not black and white like that. Protecting and providing is not beta or alpha. It can be very alpha if done in the right circumstances but if one is overdoing with someone who is not giving equal care, then it is very beta. This is something inexperienced or unsuccessful guys fail to understand when they say being a "jerk" is the end all be all. There's a fine line with having self respect and treating others based on how they treat you. If a person continues to invest way too much without getting much in return, then that person will get taken advantage of.
 

Kotaix

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 29, 2019
Messages
2,236
Reaction score
2,822
Age
48
Thats the worst thing to be with women. Sooner or later you just find that the girl is using you for your money and you become "that guy".. on a small scale the guy that buys girls drinks, and thinks they like him, but they think of him as their personal drink buyer. on a larger scale its far worse
This is a generalization, it's possible to find unentitled women. It's up to a man to realize when he's being used and next the woman.

You can support women, but realize that it's never an investment a woman doesn't owe you anything for you spending your money on her. Best case scenario, you find women who insist they pay their fare share and/or reciprocates.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

Read more...

Hoodie

Don Juan
Joined
Dec 2, 2020
Messages
166
Reaction score
90
This is a generalization, it's possible to find unentitled women. It's up to a man to realize when he's being used and next the woman.

You can support women, but realize that it's never an investment a woman doesn't owe you anything for you spending your money on her. Best case scenario, you find women who insist they pay their fare share and/or reciprocates.
It's not only monetary. Just giving her attention in a good way and making sure she is doing good, can be very rewarding. (As long as she doesn't take it for granted or you do it out of neediness or with the expectation of something in return). The act of caring can result in her appreciating you more, and view you as a high value man. (As long as you don't compromise).
 

Hoodie

Don Juan
Joined
Dec 2, 2020
Messages
166
Reaction score
90
It's not black and white like that. Protecting and providing is not beta or alpha. It can be very alpha if done in the right circumstances but if one is overdoing with someone who is not giving equal care, then it is very beta. This is something inexperienced or unsuccessful guys fail to understand when they say being a "jerk" is the end all be all. There's a fine line with having self respect and treating others based on how they treat you. If a person continues to invest way too much without getting much in return, then that person will get taken advantage of.
Agree, It's hardwired in our dna aswell. It makes us feel good. It's about not overdoing it to the point she is using you.
 

Kotaix

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 29, 2019
Messages
2,236
Reaction score
2,822
Age
48
It's not only monetary. Just giving her attention in a good way and making sure she is doing good, can be very rewarding. (As long as she doesn't take it for granted or you do it out of neediness or with the expectation of something in return). The act of caring can result in her appreciating you more, and view you as a high value man. (As long as you don't compromise).
This is true. A woman will not attach to you unless you show caring to a certain degree, but that's assuming you're dealing with women who aren't broken. That goes out the window with damaged, trashy or entitled/spoiled-brat women.
 

Lookatu

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 26, 2017
Messages
3,069
Reaction score
3,889
Age
53
Expectation management from the beginning with plates or any girl for that matter.

Don't give too much time, attention, provider vibe, etc until she has proven herself to be a potential for LTR. All others get watered down and if they don't like it, you can bounce.

Once you give too much and spoil them, it's impossible to reverse course.
 

mrgoodstuff

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 27, 2015
Messages
17,586
Reaction score
11,948
Location
DFW, TX
Thats the worst thing to be with women. Sooner or later you just find that the girl is using you for your money and you become "that guy".. on a small scale the guy that buys girls drinks, and thinks they like him, but they think of him as their personal drink buyer. on a larger scale its far worse
You get labeled that to the entire social fabric surrounding her. So it's your responsibility to ensure you are getting laid so that you put the correct messages out there.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

Read more...

mrgoodstuff

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 27, 2015
Messages
17,586
Reaction score
11,948
Location
DFW, TX
It's not black and white like that. Protecting and providing is not beta or alpha. It can be very alpha if done in the right circumstances but if one is overdoing with someone who is not giving equal care, then it is very beta. This is something inexperienced or unsuccessful guys fail to understand when they say being a "jerk" is the end all be all. There's a fine line with having self respect and treating others based on how they treat you. If a person continues to invest way too much without getting much in return, then that person will get taken advantage of.
Following the 50's standard: IE, your providing and protecting, and getting cooked for, special favors and fvcking the sh1t outta her nightly, that's a very masculine position, and yet you are doing alot of "giving" in the position.
 
Top