Protests in France

[Spaz]

Yes, now you can battle the dictionary. Have fun with that.

Don't be a sore loser.

Observe and learn.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Got it. So around 2010, for example, deficit spending spiked, probably as a result of the crash. Consumer prices dropped. But as you said there may not be causation. Obviously if the public has less money it feels comfortable spending, prices will drop to entice them. I remember airline tickets being dirt cheap in 2009-10. Meanwhile the gov't is pumping money into the economy, I'm guessing trying to push up consumer confidence and get the wheels turning faster.

Correct. That was the stimulus. The government has been spending ever since 2008, yet until 2 years ago couldn’t even get inflation consistently above 2%. Why? Look at oil prices. The government wants 2-3% as it’s best for long term economic growth. They will manipulate the money supply to achieve it. Those who fear inflation dont understand economics.

 

[Spaz]

You are battling a dictionary, and now calling me names for pointing it out.

Back up from the feelz, embrace the masculine logic and you will be better for it.

I've noticed ur propensity towards feelings.

You keep mentioning it over and over, easily feel insulted, then would take it upon himself to feel within a word and thinks it's name calling/insult, then due to emotional attachment brings up past threads which I can't even remember.

There's others. Oh yeah, complaints when he's emotionally hurt.

There's so much feelings within you buddy.

Understand this Danger, I have no desire to be your emotional tampon.

Stick to the topic. If you can't then be quiet.

 

[Spaz]

I am staying on topic.

You are now avoiding both of those topics.

1. That you are battling a dictionary regarding definitions.
2. That you are basing the Putin / Poroshenko situation on your feelz (you admitted this) instead of the facts and logic I gave you.

Women use feelings.
Men use facts.

Which one are you?

You seem engrossed with feelings today.

Here's the topic if you're forgottten;

Are you still confused between the difference of devaluation and depreciation of currency Danger?

Best you use your idle time to research it.

 

[Spaz]

The dictionary disagrees with you. But you keep avoiding that.

Just as you avoid the logic of Putin / Poroshenko and instead embrace your feelz.

Address the facts and perhaps your feelz will subside. It is what men do.

I once knew an autistic guy who fussed over the smallest detail in a movie...

 

[Spaz]

Like your fussing over devaluation and depreciation even though the dictionary agrees with me?

No wonder they created 2 separate words because the dictionary agrees with you lmaoooo

 

[EyeBRollin]

Que the special pleading and deceptive bull****.:

Now that is a great smokebomb, I have to hand it to you. But you are excluding some key items.

Oil is in everything so it has massive impacts on prices, but not in a sustainable manner if money supply does not expand to accomodate it.

Reiterating what I said about spending to reach target inflation rate.

When oil spikes and you need to sacrifice spending because everything goes up in price, you consume less overall. This goes for people, companies and governments.

When oil spikes there’s less need for government spending. Inflation is good. people buy **** today because it is cheaper than tomorrow. The government knows this, which is why they’ll bend over backwards to prevent DEflation. Get it?

Government deficits and spending spike when oil prices spike simply because they have no other source for the money. When that new money flows into the economy, to stay for the long haul, ONLY THEN is the inflation permanent.

Wrong. Study the graphs again.

Of course, don't take my word for it. Inflation and devaluation occurred in Roman times due to money clipping (they would shave the metal content from coins).

Or maybe it was those raging oil wars in the middle east back then ;-).

Here comes the obvious deception. Danger knows oil wasn’t society’s most precious resource in Roman times, yet makes the argument anyway.

Here is another chart for you showing that the gold/oil ratio stay very similar over time. I wonder why it doesnt stay the same for USD and oil....hmmmmm

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/images/2012/Dec/Free-Essay-2012-12-19-fig-1.png

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This is a just a lost cause. There’s no point in repeating what myself and others have tried to convey to you regarding the USD.

 

[Spaz]

Different (separate) words can often (frequently) share the same (similar) meanings (definitions).

Funny (amusing) isn't it?

Let me know when you lose the feminine feelz and we can pickup again with the facts.

The fact is it denotes separate action thereby rendering different meaning hence the difference in words.

R u trying to change a fact to suit your incapacity to understand the difference?

I could explain it if you have problems understanding it.

 

[Spaz]

I am not changing any fact. The dictionary shows the fact.

The action is not in question (printing). It is the effect being questioned by people who do not understand supply and demand.

The effect has the same meaning as evidenced by the dictionary, which you are throwing a tantrum (feelz again) about.

Printing money causes a devaluation (or depreciation) of the currency. This is a fact, and it's equivalent existed long before oil was around.

Duh...

You trying to twist facts to suit your ego doesn't help people to understand the truth. But then maybe I'm wrong, it's your slow processing power that's the main root cause.

I will use an easy example just for your benefit. I'll use the same example I gave @samspade by using a car.

I hope you do understand the simple mechanism of buying and selling a car or if that's too hard let me know.

Devaluation

When a new car is in a showroom is priced at 25k then it's the market price set by dealer/manufacturer.

It's when said car is devalued by 10k to now be priced at 15k either to clear their excess stocks or to gain market share.

The point here is, it's a deliberate action.

This is the meaning of devaluation.

Depreciation

The moment a new car is bought the depreciation starts and the quantum is highly dependant on the age of the car and the mileage, this is decided by market forces. An older car will have less overall productivity.

Can you understand something this simple to apply it to the currency of a country and how it works ?

But I'm betting you're gonna have a hard time processing it all lmaoooo

 

[Spaz]

Great, you are differentiating on intent, which is irrelevant to the discussion. Which also the dictionary does not care about.

Printing devalues (or depreciates) the currency. Whether that was the intention or not.

I understand you are emotional over this, the feelz will subside. Grab some wine and bon bons and throw on a hallmark movie.

The devaluation of currency done by China is to spur growth via cheaper exports.

The printing of more money is the consequences of that action.

The only one here using his feelings to influence the way he thinks is you.

Or you're slow minded to comprehend simple economic mechanism lmaoooo

 

[Spaz]

1. This is intent. Who cares.

2. Printing is the consequence of intent in this example, inflation and devaluation is the consequence of printing. As I keep saying and you deny.

3. Your tantrums betray you. How is the hallmark movie?

Is this ur attempt to cover up your obvious lies and innuendos?

Soon you will start complaining that Spaz has insulted you with the truth lmaooo

 

[Spaz]

What lies?

I have said all along that printing devalues (or depreciates) the value of a currency.

The socialists of the site take great issue with that. Ask Venezuela how it is working for them.

Roflmao you still don't understand it do you?

Or you're trying to lie once more?

Either way here's the truth;

The devaluation of currency done by China is to spur growth via cheaper exports.

The printing of more money is the consequences of that action.

The only one here using his feelings to influence the way he thinks is you.

Or you're slow minded to comprehend simple economic mechanism lmaoooo

 

[Spaz]

I already answered this. Intent does not matter.

Printing reduces the value of currency regardless of whether you want to differentiate by intent (devaluation or depreciation).

But socialists of the world such as yourself think this does not cause the currency to drop in value.

Stop lying.

This is the truth.

The devaluation of currency done by China is to spur growth via cheaper exports.

The printing of more money is the consequences of that action.

The only one here using his feelings to influence the way he thinks is you.

Or you're slow minded to comprehend simple economic mechanism lmaoooo

 

[Spaz]

Tell me what is wrong with my statement. What is factually incorrect?

You should tell me which is factually incorrect with mine;

The devaluation of currency done by China is to spur growth via cheaper exports.

The printing of more money is the consequences of that action.

The only one here using his feelings to influence the way he thinks is you.

Or you're slow minded to comprehend simple economic mechanism lmaoooo

 

[Spaz]

LOL, your emotions still have a grip on you.

Yours has nothing to do with the originating argument on whether or not printing reduces the value of a currency.

It does not negate my argument at all.

More lies to spread deceit within the thread.

If you cannot dispute my statement, then it nullifies all your statements as lies, again dispute this statement as not true;

The devaluation of currency done by China is to spur growth via cheaper exports.

The printing of more money is the consequences of that action.

The only one here using his feelings to influence the way he thinks is you.

Or you're slow minded to comprehend simple economic mechanism lmaoooo

 

[Spaz]

And how does it dispute my claim that printing reduces the value of money?

Stop lying and stop trying to insult the intelligence of people reading the thread.

Answer Yes or No to the truth of this statement;

The devaluation of currency done by China is to spur growth via cheaper exports.

The printing of more money is the consequences of that action.

The only one here using his feelings to influence the way he thinks is you.

Or you're slow minded to comprehend simple economic mechanism lmaoooo

 

[Spaz]

Yeah, that's what I thought. This does not dispute my statement at all. You just skip the final statement that the actual printing is what brings the intent of devaluation to reality in a permanent fashion.

Enjoy your hallmark movie, I'm going upstairs to fvk my girl.

Cant answer yes or no and now parading more lies to cover your deceit..

Again Yes or No to this truth;

The devaluation of currency done by China is to spur growth via cheaper exports.

The printing of more money is the consequences of that action.

The only one here using his feelings to influence the way he thinks is you.

Or you're slow minded to comprehend simple economic mechanism lmaoooo

 

[Spaz]

It is misleading and you know it. I have made some slight adjustments to enure it is true and CLEAR, as shown below.

Modifying my post and then projecting it as mine shows your deceitful nature.

Stop spreading more lies and answer the questions; YES or NO to my statement below;

The devaluation of currency done by China is to spur growth via cheaper exports.

The printing of more money is the consequences of that action.

The only one here using his feelings to influence the way he thinks is you.

Or you're slow minded to comprehend simple economic mechanism lmaoooo

 

[Spaz]

I told everyone I modified it and highlighted what I modified. No deceit from me at all, but thanks for exposing yourself to everyone.

Yours was missing key information which could mislead less knowledgeable people.

Do you disagree with the clarified version?

Stop being deceitful and then trying to lie your way out of it.

If you disagree with my statement then provide a concise arguement after you're answered NO to this statement;

The devaluation of currency done by China is to spur growth via cheaper exports.

The printing of more money is the consequences of that action.

The only one here using his feelings to influence the way he thinks is you.

Or you're slow minded to comprehend simple economic mechanism lmaoooo

 

[Spaz]

Stop being emotional and go paint your nails to calm down

I gave a concise answer and the correction needed.

Look at the new version with my corrections and you will see what was missing.

More misdirections to hide the fact that you're lying, and trying to deceive readers here with your deceitful propaganda/innuendos.

Yes or No to the truth of my statement. If it's not true then be brave to say NO. If it's true then be brave to concede.

Stop being a headless chicken.

The devaluation of currency done by China is to spur growth via cheaper exports.

The printing of more money is the consequences of that action.

The only one here using his feelings to influence the way he thinks is you.

Or you're slow minded to comprehend simple economic mechanism lmaoooo