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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

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Problems with friends and meeting girls

Leuven

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Hi,

It's about a year now that I discovered this site. In the beginning it was mostly reading and than try to take the theorie in action.

I can say that I learn't a lot and still learning. I came a long way ( much longer than I possible could imagine! ) I had absolutely no idea things were as bad as they were ... and still are, but I see some lights shining through a very long and dark path.

Finding out that conditions were worse than even thought possible make me thing about it how it could ever get as worse as it was.

I remember when I was a little boy, I got lots of friends but then we moved, other village, other school but because of the distance I lost all of my friends.

It took me several years till I get myself some new good friends ( about the age of 16 ). Now I have lots of friends, but they are all very bad with woman.

examples :

friend #1: Knows lots of woman, but they are all lesbian or commited. He is not afraid of talking strange girls, but is to explicit in my opinion. He mostly insults them without even being aware of it. He hasn't kissed a girl yet ( age : 23 )

friend #2: He is very shy. Loves going out and often girls hit on him but he always blews it or sends them away. He has comment on every girl. ( She has a big but, breasts are too small, she is not beautifull enough, ... ) He never starts to talk to a strange girl and also won't do so if we go out togheter and there are two girls standing alone and I start to talk to one of them...
Never has had a relationship ( age : 24 )

friend #3: Works in the weekends and is free during the week.
He won't start to talk to a strange girl on a street or in a club. He is someone who meets girls from the internet, meets them just for s*x
Never has had a relationship, only s*xdates ( age : 24 )

group of new friends ( friends that I met this year, there's 4 of them ). They go out very often, but always in the corner of the club, drinking ( too ) many beers, but hardly dance or talking to a girl. Last friday there was a girl who want to know one of them a little better :) and she let a friend of her asks him, but he didn't do a thing, even not go over and talk to her ( she was nice looking, not only my opinion but also his, but he never did a thing ) 2 of them has never had a relationship ( age : 22 and 27 )
1 is involved in a relationship with a Polish student and the other has broken up a year ago.

This are some examples, but the rest is somewhat the same. Basically not talking to girls, they are all afraid. When I want to go over and talk to a girl, I am always on my own and that's always somewhat embarrasing as the girls sometimes asks me if my friends are too afraid. You see, I have the feeling as they don't see me as the bravest but as the less scared.


Any suggestions? Because of my age ( almost 25 ) it is difficult to find quick new friends of my age who also wants and dare to attrack woman. Should I try on my own sometimes and go out without friends?




Sincerely
 

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Kaptain

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Have you been spying on my friends???

Don't give up making new friends. DJ types like you and should be able to make friends easilier 'cos were fun to be around.

Keep going out with your mates and pulling chicks. If they are as stubborn as my mates are the only way you can help them is to keep pulling honeys until the want some too. :D

Try going out by yourself. I recommend keep hitting places until you find somewhere were you relax a bit and start having fun. Then you'll bound meet some interesting people.
 

Desdinova

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Try going out by yourself. I recommend keep hitting places until you find somewhere were you relax a bit and start having fun. Then you'll bound meet some interesting people.
Agreed. You'll also find that going out alone prevents your AFC friends from dragging you down to their level. Also, you don't have your guy friends there as potential c0ckblocks. Going out alone forces you to get aquainted with other people because you're alone.
 

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I can relate to this. I've always been a shy person and to top it off I'm insecure about my appearance (short, skinny, use to have bad acne, etc.). My close friends are involved with women but they aren't with the women they would've initially chosen if they weren't desperate.

1. (26) Been with 2 women, first one left him basically and now he's living with the current.

2. (26) Has only been with one girl and they are now married and living together (initially he didn't want to pursue her but I guess he felt he didn't have any other options).

3. (22) Currently with 2 women. First one is a 44 y/o woman who smokes/drinks and hardly ever leaves the house unless she's going to work or visiting family (very nice woman though). Second one recently got dumped by her boyfriend and my friend moved in on her after hanging out with them for many years (secretly putting in work to get her all these years). He basically went the "friends" route and she settled for him after being crushed and not having any options.

4. (30) Never had a girlfriend (frequents strip clubs) and was caught putting his finger in a girls ass (by her when she awoke) when she was sleeping and tried to pretend like he was cleaning. He's very good with her kids and is currently renting a room in "her" house, although she treats him like a kid himself. (very weird).

I guess I can't count on getting help from these guys.:eek:
 

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Originally posted by Tazman
was caught putting his finger in a girls ass (by her when she awoke) when she was sleeping and tried to pretend like he was cleaning
LMFAO

what kinda excuse is that
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Tazman

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Originally posted by Tazman
was caught putting his finger in a girls ass (by her when she awoke) when she was sleeping and tried to pretend like he was cleaning
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LMFAO

what kinda excuse is that
When she woke up (she was probably passed out drunk) he pretended like he was cleaning some stuff up around her. I don't think they ever spoke to each other about it, she told other people. He definitely didn't say anything about it himself. It's really strange how she would allow this guy to live in the same house with her and her kids, but then again, she's not the most responsible or sane person I know.
 

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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

what is the fascination, and what is accomplished by sticking your finger in a girls a5s?
 

Tazman

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Well, for starters, imagine you were 30 y/o having never been with a woman. That's desperation at it's finest.
 

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i didnt read all you thread b/c got tired of hearing about your friends......there not you and your not them, make your own innishiative and do something....never stop making friends dude, friends are endless why only have a handfull.....talk to women 24/7..no need to hit on em just practice your convo and again make friends...umm about walking up to girls by yourslef, who cares, if you preent yourself in a confident manner there is no way they can think you're the less scared...say that your friends are gay..lol jk but maybe you can convince the girls that you need some help to get the boyz to open up to the opposite sex, might be fun for the ladies??
 
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