"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Problems with asking there number

rushing dude 123

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right i have asked a lot of girls for there numbers, but i came to realise i have a serious problem, even if i get a serious lot of ioi's from the girl. When i seem to close most of the time it kinda jus comes out wrong, like i am reading something out and not natural and no matter how many times i have done it, it still comes out that way. Usually the reactions is either a, i don't get number or 2 i argue my way through and end up getting number. When i do get my numbers though no questions asked, it is very natural, it is not what i say its more how i say it. If i am confident and ask i will get it, but sometimes i think how to ask it and then it usually comes out a bit uncofident.

So would u guys know any way i could solve this, it would seriously help my game a lot.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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ProDJ26

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Don't think too hard and beat yourself up. Just know that your doing half of what everybody should be doing. And thats getting phone numbers and rejections from the real world. You said it yourself. it's more of how you say it. You already gotten numbers before and you know you can get more. So tell your inner critic to shut the heck up.

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rushing dude 123

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guys i asked a girls number today after i talked to her for like 30 minutes and then she said giv me ur number, knowing this is a sign of flaking i had to convince her to giv me her number for 14 minutes.....now i am doing something seriously long. Also trust me its not the IL because i got her to run through a fountain lol and from phone talk later, it showed she had high IL in my opinion.

I need help on this guys, i jus want quick closes its jus annoying having to go through that process.
 

Prodigy746

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I felt like i had the same problem so
One thing that helped me out is....

when i was alone in the house one day i just repedetly kept saying.

"Hey Let me get your number and will hang out sometime"
Let me get your number and ill give you a call some time"
"You seem like a cool girl, let me get your number and maybe we can hang out sometime.

"Wats your number, ill give you a call sometime"
I changed it up because after 20 -30 times i was sick of saying the same thing.
Also make sure you say it out loud like you would normally say it...it doesnt work if you say it in your head. Word have to come out. One thing you should notice is that after 30th time it should sound better ... more natural.

I even went in front of a mirror and did it.

Now i am not gonna lie, it felt weird as hell talking to my self but i didnt care because i was alone in the house and nobody knew about it. Now when i ask for a number it comes out naturally like i been saying it forever. Its kind like saying to a friend "Whats up"..you have no problem with that because you have said it so much that you are used to it. Trust me, try it ...it works

Might be weird but it works.
 

619joe

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Prodigy nailed it.I use that line it works like a charm.

On my first ever number close from cold approach,the girl had asked me "How about you give me your number?"

I knew she was interested and saw this as a test andsaid

"Nope.Thats not how it works.The way it works is we EXCHANGE numbers"

she then said "Thats too bad then" to which I said "Well that is too bad" and I started walking away...

She looks back at me again and says "Ok fine my number is ---".It was a real number too though btw so use my line next time you get caught up like that
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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