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Prison Are Revealing Covid-19 Facts

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Evidence continues to support reopening
 

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This shamdemic surely is not the zombie apocalypse that the media makes it out to be.... Just like Russiagate and Ukrainegate, it's yet another manifestation of Orange Man Bad.... But only this time it shows just how insidious the left truly are - they are willing to wreck the economy and put millions homeless just to push an agenda...

Here's Bill Maher candidly saying what all on the left secretly hope for: a recession just to oust Orange Man

 

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Slow down gandhi.
KFC is the private prison owner.
It's in the business best interest that no one dies. Statistics will not be revealed to you. Death rate is around 6% anyway you screw with it.
 

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@backseatjuan as more antibody testing is being done the death rate which was already pretty low has been going down even more and it is not near 6% like you claim. Also Neal Ferguson the doctor that made the first model claiming millions of deaths in the U.S. has had to resign from his position, not because his China virus model was so wildly inaccurate or because he has a history of producing insanely inaccurate disease models, but because he broke quarantine to go bang a married women that he is having an affair with. If this loser can do that ,then it is time for people to get back to their normal lives.
 

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Over here, husband of one wife who worked at a supermarket, arrived from Moscow, and infected the wife. That in turn infected 142 people at the supermarket. Yuppi yo yuppi yey! Death rate is only 6%, we can now go lick the door knob.

Any of you even considered what the other 94% who don't die go through and most importantly what they are left with?

Vaccine is just around the corner. Better be broke than have heart disease, or kidney disease.
 

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Prisons are unsanitary so people have a stronger immune defense in those environments.
 

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This would lend credibility to the herd immunity argument for re-opening....
Yes, but prison itself has a higher concentration of the type of people who may be more resistant to getting symptoms from the virus. Unless the whole country shuts off the sewers and you have a society that is as unsanitary as say London, England was before they invented the sewer system where people dumped their crap in buckets outside the windows, and horses dumped on the street and you have smelly feces all over the place, then it's unlikely going to work. Our society has become very sanitary so people are more vulnerable to covid.
 

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The virus has already mutated multiple times. The first major mutation was to a less deadly, but more transmissible form. There is also virtually zero immunity for the people who get it but dont get very sick. Part of the discrepancies by country might have to do with different strains of the virus. The US already has two different strains on the east and west coasts.

This confirmation that covid 19 mutates so rapidly is very bad news for vaccine development. There has never been a successful vaccine for a corona virus. That's why the common cold is common. The best they will be able to do is an annual covid shot that, like a flu shot, has to guess as to what strain of the virus will be going around. Herd immunity will keep us from going extinct as a species, but covid will probably be around for all of our lives, chipping away at the world's population.
 

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There has never been a successful vaccine for a corona virus. That's why the common cold is common.
Yeah, considering that, it's amazing how confident the higher ups seem to be that they're going to get this vaccine out, in record time no less, and that they're pinning all their hopes on it.

Now everyone's focusing on reopening the country, but nothing's changed, the virus is still there. Maybe the lockdown was a huge mistake in the first place, because despite all the efforts, the virus is still spreading. Maybe we should have let nature take its course. There would be more deaths, but maybe not all this fear and other problems secondary to the lockdown. This reopening is either going to be a new way of life or a big disaster, not sure which.
 

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The best they will be able to do is an annual covid shot that, like a flu shot, has to guess as to what strain of the virus will be going around. Herd immunity will keep us from going extinct as a species, but covid will probably be around for all of our lives, chipping away at the world's population.
Billy G would be ecstatic at that scenario....dude has been going hard pimping out the mandatory vaccination scenario....

....btw, a COVID19 vaccine would in reality be a trojan horse for low-key sterilization shots.....
 

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thats not good study my friend. because. prisoners regularly buttfug each other
Maybe all those cooties have built up their immunity.
 

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Yes, but prison itself has a higher concentration of the type of people who may be more resistant to getting symptoms from the virus. Unless the whole country shuts off the sewers and you have a society that is as unsanitary as say London, England was before they invented the sewer system where people dumped their crap in buckets outside the windows, and horses dumped on the street and you have smelly feces all over the place, then it's unlikely going to work. Our society has become very sanitary so people are more vulnerable to covid.
This theory supports immediate reopening as we are weakening our immune systems by staying in.

The virus has already mutated multiple times. The first major mutation was to a less deadly, but more transmissible form. There is also virtually zero immunity for the people who get it but dont get very sick. Part of the discrepancies by country might have to do with different strains of the virus. The US already has two different strains on the east and west coasts.

This confirmation that covid 19 mutates so rapidly is very bad news for vaccine development. There has never been a successful vaccine for a corona virus. That's why the common cold is common. The best they will be able to do is an annual covid shot that, like a flu shot, has to guess as to what strain of the virus will be going around. Herd immunity will keep us from going extinct as a species, but covid will probably be around for all of our lives, chipping away at the world's population.
Again, this theory supports reopening.
Yeah, considering that, it's amazing how confident the higher ups seem to be that they're going to get this vaccine out, in record time no less, and that they're pinning all their hopes on it.

Now everyone's focusing on reopening the country, but nothing's changed, the virus is still there. Maybe the lockdown was a huge mistake in the first place, because despite all the efforts, the virus is still spreading. Maybe we should have let nature take its course. There would be more deaths, but maybe not all this fear and other problems secondary to the lockdown. This reopening is either going to be a new way of life or a big disaster, not sure which.
It was clearly a mistake.
 

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This theory supports immediate reopening as we are weakening our immune systems by staying in.
Not really. You have to be exposed to "safer" types of infections or unsanitary conditions over a length of time, not get shocked with a killer-virus. Nobody would sign-up for being in unsanitary conditions because it's seen as backwards and regressive and hearkens back to a time when you had blood-letting to treat diseases and cholera outbreaks were common. The only people who are forced into unsanitary conditions is due to poverty or due to criminal (in)justice system, and this is where you get an irony of nature. Only the hardy among people survive those type of conditions (i.e. as people who can't, would obviously pick up infection/disease and would be weeded out - which could mean a relief from being in jail if that's a good thing) and being fit would be able to withstand a covid outbreak with no symptoms.

In other words, they have been acclimated to where covid19 does not affect them. You can't take people who have not been acclimated and just throw them into harm's way with the hopes of Herd immunity without having an insane death-toll that would be shocking in a modern peacetime society.
 

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Not really. You have to be exposed to "safer" types of infections or unsanitary conditions over a length of time, not get shocked with a killer-virus. Nobody would sign-up for being in unsanitary conditions because it's seen as backwards and regressive and hearkens back to a time when you had blood-letting to treat diseases and cholera outbreaks were common. The only people who are forced into unsanitary conditions is due to poverty or due to criminal (in)justice system, and this is where you get an irony of nature. Only the hardy among people survive those type of conditions (i.e. as people who can't, would obviously pick up infection/disease and would be weeded out - which could mean a relief from being in jail if that's a good thing) and being fit would be able to withstand a covid outbreak with no symptoms.

In other words, they have been acclimated to where covid19 does not affect them. You can't take people who have not been acclimated and just throw them into harm's way with the hopes of Herd immunity without having an insane death-toll that would be shocking in a modern peacetime society.
My point is that our immune systems will be weakened to other types of infections when we do fully reopen if stay in lockdown too long.
 

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Not really. You have to be exposed to "safer" types of infections or unsanitary conditions over a length of time, not get shocked with a killer-virus. Nobody would sign-up for being in unsanitary conditions because it's seen as backwards and regressive and hearkens back to a time when you had blood-letting to treat diseases and cholera outbreaks were common. The only people who are forced into unsanitary conditions is due to poverty or due to criminal (in)justice system, and this is where you get an irony of nature. Only the hardy among people survive those type of conditions (i.e. as people who can't, would obviously pick up infection/disease and would be weeded out - which could mean a relief from being in jail if that's a good thing) and being fit would be able to withstand a covid outbreak with no symptoms.

In other words, they have been acclimated to where covid19 does not affect them. You can't take people who have not been acclimated and just throw them into harm's way with the hopes of Herd immunity without having an insane death-toll that would be shocking in a modern peacetime society.
Another point I must make is simple. Few, if any are in a true quarantine. You are all exposed every week. Whether it is at Walmart or your essential family member who comes home. So, the disease spreads regardless of lockdown. The only real argument in favor of lockdown was in hopes of slowing spread to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed, supposedly. Well, they aren't. Mission accomplished. Now we are just moving the goalpost.

"Killer virus"? A virus with a 0.2% or less real death rate is hardly that.
 

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Prisons are younger demographically than America as a whole so I could see how there would be a lower infection casualty rate and more asymptomatic cases.

Plus prisons lie. As someone who worked in one don't make policy from what you hear from a prison. Verify everything.
 

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Prisons are younger demographically than America as a whole so I could see how there would be a lower infection casualty rate and more asymptomatic cases.

Plus prisons lie. As someone who worked in one don't make policy from what you hear from a prison. Verify everything.
The article addresses prisoner age and takes that into account.

Also, it's not just prisons.
 

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Few, if any are in a true quarantine. You are all exposed every week. Whether it is at Walmart or your essential family member who comes home. So, the disease spreads regardless of lockdown.
Cuomo noted yesterday that 2/3 of hospitalized cases in New York were people who were sheltering in place at home. He had expected most to be essential workers. So case in point.

I wonder how many of those people really understood the principles involved with isolation however.
 
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