TonyWongButOhSoRite
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^^^Meaningless post you souldnt have bothered
Good post max. Props.
Good post max. Props.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Yes but if you indeed invest time in the field, you'll come to realise all of this eventually anyway (maybe after years). But by reading this now and perhaps it even confirming what you've experienced, you know what to look out for. The next sarges you do, you'll be spotting those IOI's, knowing that she's an AW at heart and seeks validation, knowing she's implicit with her words and **** tests you for screening, knowing that she's emotional and backwards justifies, etc. It's good to know this stuff, rather than going in the field and banging heads against walls.oldschooler said:Meaningless reading I needent bother.
Rather invest my time in the field..
Yup, Mad Manic is right on. Definitely take any "claimed" theory found on this site and test it out on the field or with your own GF yourself.Mad Manic said:Yes but if you indeed invest time in the field, you'll come to realise all of this eventually anyway (maybe after years). But by reading this now and perhaps it even confirming what you've experienced, you know what to look out for. The next sarges you do, you'll be spotting those IOI's, knowing that she's an AW at heart and seeks validation, knowing she's implicit with her words and **** tests you for screening, knowing that she's emotional and backwards justifies, etc. It's good to know this stuff, rather than going in the field and banging heads against walls.
You can never substitute time in the field. However, it is always a bonus to know how chicks think from the inside, so that when you are out in the field, you can verify their external actions because you know precisely about their internal process.oldschooler said:Meaningless reading I needent bother.
Rather invest my time in the field..
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
But that’s my point, you don’t have to know this stuff to get women, to be good with women, you really don’t. In fact, I’d go as far as to say, using this knowledge will prevent you from getting many women.Mad Manic said:This isn't about hanging about with women yet making errors and end up not shagging them, it's about learning to get good with women. Knowing how they work generally is a fundamental part of that. I'm sure we both know that we aren't born knowing stuff like this. It has to be learnt and internalized.
See? They liked you enough from the start to have you around them. So you could gather experiences with them. That is not the case for a lot of guys.potato said:Everything I know about women I learned by hanging out with women
So what does "go with it" mean to you? Play it by ear? Using your intuition? Your intuition is the essence of all your experience. If you´re making a case against overanalyzing - ok, I hear you. If you´re generally making a case against psychology or sociology - hm, nobody would be that stupid.potato said:When you hang out with your friends do you stop and think about how guys work? When you’re hanging out with your dog, do you have to think about how dogs work? Or do you just go with it?
It is not - the first and NOT the second, but the first BECAUSE OF the second.potato said:When I’m out at social gatherings and see guys failing at tying to get women, and seeing how women are reacting to them; it’s always the guy being unappealing in someway, not his lack of understanding of how women work.
You can´t understand them... what is there to understand in a creature running mostly on emotions?potato said:Getting women isn’t in understanding them
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Ok, but just consider this; you're exactly are as you are now, but you get zero women. How would you feel? I mean all these good attributes you have but getting no women, it would suck right? There are many guys in that position. The reason you get women is because over the years you've learnt (without knowing perhaps) how they work to a sufficient level and how to deal with them.potato said:But that’s my point, you don’t have to know this stuff to get women, to be good with women, you really don’t. In fact, I’d go as far as to say, using this knowledge will prevent you from getting many women.
I’ve gotten plenty of women in my life and I’ve never had a thought about any of this stuff. It’s not like I go up to a woman and think, “oh she’s a woman so she must be this way.” It’s more like, “she looks kind of interesting, I wonder what she’s like.” Everything I know about women I learned by hanging out with women. One thing that I’ve learned is that every woman is different.
When you hang out with your friends do you stop and think about how guys work? When you’re hanging out with your dog, do you have to think about how dogs work? Or do you just go with it?
When I’m out at social gatherings and see guys failing at tying to get women, and seeing how women are reacting to them; it’s always the guy being unappealing in someway, not his lack of understanding of how women work. I get women, and lots of them, by being the best me that I can be. Guys are always asking me my secret. There is no secret, I always try to look my best, I’m confident, happy, and sensitive to those around me. I’m honorable and very likable; kids like me, old people like me, guys like me, and women love me.
Getting women isn’t in understanding them; it is in understanding yourself and learning to be sociable.
I think that Senor Fingers says pretty much the same thing in his thread. It’s about you and knowing what you want, being the man.