"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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prime example of hypergamy, read and learn

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Some of you may remember I cold turkey ended by 1-year long LTR with a girl that went to Alaska for the summer.

Details here:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=196156

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Fast forward. She came back two weeks ago. And of course I didn't call.. But today, I really had an intense dream about her, and I wanted to give it a shot.
Shot her an e-mail saying:

I still have some of your belongings. What do you want me to do with them?

( Some of you guys may blame me for this... But I am human, I slip-up from time to time as well.. I felt bad immediately after sending this, but bear with me.)

She calls me. We set up a date. I will drop her sh!t right away. Ended up going to her house and banging her. It didn't help that she gained +15 pounds in 3 months, good grief!... Still gave me a rock-star BJ and that did the trick. That's the sweet success part.

Now let's come to the hard-truth: (Of course this doesn't hurt me even a bit because I am practically in a relationship with the Boston intern I mentioned above)

She found a 37-y-old park ranger in Alaska, and she's going to live with this guy right after her finals, in Fairbanks. She already slept with him and another dude in Alaska, claiming she did all that after we broke up.

I looked her in the eye and told her: Nancy I don't give a damn! :) As she saw me really comfortable, she opened up more and more .. Telling me all about her "adventures" in Alaska.

I told her we will see each other again, as FWB (as Fvck Buddies) rather but I don't know if I'll ever do it again. She was fatter, she stunk somewhat and overall she just didn't seem like the same girl. I guess I needed to know that I could still have her.

My dopamine levels are up (at least the Boston-chick is skeletor-skinny and she's coming next Wednesday) and I am happy.

She also thanked me for cutting the relationship so swiftly, she said she could never do it like that! Don Juan points +

It all turned out better for me, and for her. She should seek out her life, she's young. And if she wants to have kids, and this guy will provide that for her, more power to them.

My point is, this story could have been a sad SoSuave story of a guy who ended up being cheated, humiliated and left for dead.

But it all depends on how you look at things. I am glad this girl doesn't hate me and I don't hate her. I am glad women multi-date. It makes us be able to multi-date as well.

I know she's not normal, but who cares, honestly? I am busy writing my first paper to IEEE-TED. I have a life and priorities ;P

PS: This is another thank you note to all my seniors and juniors from whom I have learned so much over the years,

Cheers,,
BM :rock:
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I think you have handled this all pretty well, mised the initial thread so went back and read it (VU's podcast wouldnt load though grrr!)

one could argue the getting back in touch with her was AFC but like you say no one is perfect and lets face it, if we all got a no strings bang and a rocking BJ out of it, we'd all be contacting exs!

those dreams are b!tches though arent they!
 

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she didn't smell initially Braddie, she got sweaty after we did some exercise :p

She's not as skinny anymore and I give it to that. It wasn't unbearable.

Thanks, betheman, I know I should probably have NC'ed for good, but I messed up. I won't fall back into a routine or settle for something I don't want though.

That's for sure.
 

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Dont think you messed up at all, far from it. the NC rule is a bit of an absolute around here and generally Id subscibe to it, only do it if you are in a good frame and can walk away, you did. job done
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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