Primal Diet / Raw Meat - ask me anything

[Arete]

In this thread I would like to introduce the Primal Diet by Aajonus Vonderplanitz.

This diet is nothing for the faint of heart and can be considered the final boss of nutrition.

In short, it's about eating everything raw, including raw meat, raw fish, raw eggs, and raw dairy.

I have been on this diet consistently for 3 months now with the original intent of debunking it. But instead

• physique gains and strength gains that are almost as rapid as roids.
• Life-long health issues vanishing like miracles are everyday occurrences.
• better appearance and skin, like using makeup (even as a man)
• a youthful appearance, I can pass as 20 while being 28 at the time of writing
• a jawline that makes me marvel at my own mirror image

Note I'm having experience with most famous diets, including veganism, vegetarianism, fruitarianism, paleo, and keto.

Also note, if you are on a very bad diet, this diet will give you (at the start) severe side effects. Absolutely don't jump in 100% if you regularly eat McDonald's and drink cola, or you might actually even die.

To give you a baseline. I was eating garbage regularly till age 20. After that I was eating relatively clean till 25. And after that I locked in. Meaning I was eating VERY clean for 3 years before starting this. I had zero side effects whatsoever.

The reason why I'm still mentioning the risk is for safety reasons, because some people tend to overdo it if something works.

I encourage you to do your own experiments and see for yourself. For starters this could be something as simple as eating 5 raw eggs in the morning, like in that Rocky movie.

Now, of course, everyone will be saying this is utterly insane nonsense. "But science says XYZ!"

I can relate; no hard feelings. I don't have "scientific" proof that doesn't already have a hundred "counter proofs" in place. What I will do is simply answer questions if anyone is genuinely interested.

However, I won't reply to people insisting I'm insane, because it's not like I'm getting payed for this.

 

[Bible_Belt]

There is evidence to indicate early humans used decomposition and not fire to prepare meat. They would bury a kill as they travelled and then come back and dig it up later to eat. Cooking food as a concept may have been invented in order to make carbohydrates more digestible.

With eggs and dairy, the contamination comes from the outside. Wash the egg shell carefully before you crack it. And with raw milk, you just have to trust the farmer to be clean. When cows sh1t, some splashes on their udders. That's what makes people sick from raw milk, not the milk itself. But if you clean off the cow before milking it, like people did for all of human agricultural history before everything was done by machines, raw milk isn't dangerous.

And with meat, a lot can be done with acidity. I saw locals in the Caribbean use lime juice as a sterilizer. They wouldn't wash a knife or chopping board when going from raw meat to fresh vegetables. I think your biggest challenge would be wild meat that is likely contaminated with parasites. They can be killed, but some are very hard to get rid of without cooking.

 

[Arete]

There is evidence to indicate early humans used decomposition and not fire to prepare meat. They would bury a kill as they travelled and then come back and dig it up later to eat. Cooking food as a concept may have been invented in order to make carbohydrates more digestible.

Carbohydrates are fully avoided on this diet. The exceptions are mainly raw unheated honey. If carbohydrates such as potatoes, wheat or rice are prepared, they have to be heated thoroughly. That's the only exception to eating everything raw. Fruits should be strongly limited. In mainstream science terms, because of AGEs (Advanced Glycation End Products). Does exactly what it sounds like.

With eggs and dairy, the contamination comes from the outside. Wash the egg shell carefully before you crack it. And with raw milk, you just have to trust the farmer to be clean. When cows sh1t, some splashes on their udders. That's what makes people sick from raw milk, not the milk itself. But if you clean off the cow before milking it, like people did for all of human agricultural history before everything was done by machines, raw milk isn't dangerous.

That's where it gets controversial. In this diet, it is believed bacteria are not the cause of disease but the cure. They are the janitor in the human body. Humans get sick because of toxins from our modern environment. For example, if you manually wash your car you might get a light "cold" 2-3 days afterwards.

And yes, raw milk isn't dangerous. I've had lactose intolerance since about age 20. It actually started to revert slowly on raw milk. The assumption in this diet is that boiled dairy causes intolerances. It's yet too early for me to tell for sure. But I'm starting to see indications of it.

Germ theory vs Terrain theory

And with meat, a lot can be done with acidity. I saw locals in the Caribbean use lime juice as a sterilizer. They wouldn't wash a knife or chopping board when going from raw meat to fresh vegetables. I think your biggest challenge would be wild meat that is likely contaminated with parasites. They can be killed, but some are very hard to get rid of without cooking.

What I can say is, I ate wild meat fully raw. Including raw boar, which in my country is believed to be a death sentence. I have been doing this regularly for a few weeks. As I was saying, I truly tried to debunk this. I actively tried to get diarrhea or stomachache ... anything.

But nothing happened. Instead, I continued to feel better than ever by the week. My health baseline continuously increasing.

To me, this is absolutely mind-blowing, because apparently, bacteria indeed doesn't make you sick. And as far as I can tell, parasites also seem to be either fearmongering and don't exist or are simply digested by stomach fluids.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Carbohydrates are fully avoided on this diet. The exceptions are mainly raw unheated honey. If carbohydrates such as potatoes, wheat or rice are prepared, they have to be heated thoroughly. That's the only exception to eating everything raw. Fruits should be strongly limited. In mainstream science terms, because of AGEs (Advanced Glycation End Products). Does exactly what it sounds like.



That's where it gets controversial. In this diet, it is believed bacteria are not the cause of disease but the cure. They are the janitor in the human body. Humans get sick because of toxins from our modern environment. For example, if you manually wash your car you might get a light "cold" 2-3 days afterwards.

And yes, raw milk isn't dangerous. I've had lactose intolerance since about age 20. It actually started to revert slowly on raw milk. The assumption in this diet is that boiled dairy causes intolerances. It's yet too early for me to tell for sure. But I'm starting to see indications of it.

Germ theory vs Terrain theory



What I can say is, I ate wild meat fully raw. Including raw boar, which in my country is believed to be a death sentence. I have been doing this regularly for a few weeks. As I was saying, I truly tried to debunk this. I actively tried to get diarrhea or stomachache ... anything.

But nothing happened. Instead, I continued to feel better than ever by the week. My health baseline continuously increasing.

To me, this is absolutely mind-blowing, because apparently, bacteria indeed doesn't make you sick. And as far as I can tell, parasites also seem to be either fearmongering and don't exist or are simply digested by stomach fluids.

There is nothing controversial about bacteria being good for you. We literally would die without them because the human body has handed over control of numerous processes that are needed many thousands of years ago now and we have a symbiotic relationship with them.

They also make up a large percentage of the immune system, 70-80% or more.

This is not anything "new", this has been definitively known for 20-30 years now and was hypothesized as early as the 1700s.

In fact, humans are no longer viewed as a single organism but as a holobiont, a complex ecosystem similar to the Amazon Rainforest where humans are the host to many different species living as a confined ecosystem that are all interdependent on each other for survival.

 

[Arete]

Is posting links allowed? This pdf is a overview. Sharing is allowed accoring to the author.

https://primal-diet.net/downloads/books/the_primal_diet_tm.pdf

There is nothing controversial about bacteria being good for you.

The conditioning of corporations made society incredibly sensitive to topics that involve bacteria. Many people disinfect religiously and cook everything to death. Of course, they will get sick increasingly often. They think, "I must kill bacteria even more thoroughly!" And they keep doing worse healthwise.

I once was told I "have" mysophobia. But after the year 2020, somehow everyone became like me. Then I was suddenly "normal". I realized back then that the world must have gone crazy. I looked in the opposite direction. I found an answer.

This is not anything "new"

A fully raw diet including meats is said to slowly cure all diseases and increase life span to up to around 145 years. In our modern toxic environment it is, however, not possible, but 120 years is feasible on the diet.

Not only is it new, but it's fundamentally groundbreaking. If word spreads, it could change humanity and civilization as a whole.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Is posting links allowed? This pdf is a overview. Sharing is allowed accoring to the author.

https://primal-diet.net/downloads/books/the_primal_diet_tm.pdf

The conditioning of corporations made society incredibly sensitive to topics that involve bacteria. Many people disinfect religiously and cook everything to death. Of course, they will get sick increasingly often. They think, "I must kill bacteria even more thoroughly!" And they keep doing worse healthwise.

I once was told I "have" mysophobia. But after the year 2020, somehow everyone became like me. Then I was suddenly "normal". I realized back then that the world must have gone crazy. I looked in the opposite direction. I found an answer.



A fully raw diet including meats is said to slowly cure all diseases and increase life span to up to around 145 years. In our modern toxic environment it is, however, not possible, but 120 years is feasible on the diet.

Not only is it new, but it's fundamentally groundbreaking. If word spreads, it could change humanity and civilization as a whole.

This is approaching propaganda levels and it's becoming clear you likely have an agenda.

Trying to act like most people don't understand gut microbiome considering all the people taking probiotics and eating fermented foods/drinks like sauerkraut, natto, kefir and/or kombucha makes you look clueless.

In fact, I would argue there are more people who do know about this than don't. Unless you are illiterate and live in a 3rd world country and then you have a hell of a lot bigger issues to deal with than your diet most times.

Also, IDGAF what some dude "said". Show me valid scientific research and studies on this.

 

[Arete]

This is approaching propaganda levels and it's becoming clear you likely have an agenda.

Trying to act like most people don't understand gut microbiome considering all the people taking probiotics and eating fermented foods/drinks like sauerkraut, natto, kefir and/or kombucha makes you look clueless.

In fact, I would argue there are more people who do know about this than don't. Unless you are illiterate and live in a 3rd world country and then you have a hell of a lot bigger issues to deal with than your diet most times.

Also, IDGAF what some dude "said". Show me valid scientific research and studies on this.

I got overly excited, that's why I said what I said in the previous post.

Nutrition has been a field of interest of mine, since many years. I read countless studies and did experiments on myself in numerous ways. The reason for this was the physical weakness of my old self. I wanted to be strong, and I searched for a path. This is where I arrived.

I also assure you I'm not from a 3rd world country. I'm from Germany. But I admit my life started as part of the lower class.

If you like, I would be open to a short discussion on any voice chat app if you don't mind my lacking english skills.

As I already explained, showing evidence would be pointless.

I simply state what I do, and I'm willing to answer questions if anyone is interested and wants to try it.

Call it empirical science if you like.