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Hey guys,

My excuses for my bad grammar/english, sometimes I think in my own language and type.

Some days ago I met suddenly a clever woman, about 30s... We met on a meeting that was arranged by others, it was a tour. After that tour, lasted for 2 hours, purposed to go for a coffee... She was like yes was thinking the same, and after a little said, lets invite the others of the tour to join... (while this event was happening, we where talking / knowing each other a bit.
Back to the coffee... We where walking with the others of the tour, but only talking the two of us, suddenly we lost the other (cause we where walking faster) She didn't seem to care and we went for lunch and then for coffee. We talked about 4-5 hours after that tour.

We left each other in the evening, and the same day we arranged a second time to meet. This was today. (3 days after).

The date, was to be at 18:00 but due to she was not feeling good, she fall asleep so she was late by 30 minutes (about), I picked her from her place. It didn't go well so half way of our diner, I purposed as she is not feeling good to bring her home, and reschedule it...
While i was paying the bill, she wanted to pay, but as a gent, I did say this is a mine and blah blah... then she dropped the bomb: I more or less see it like a friendly date, cause I am not into anything due to many things i have.
(She has kids, divorced and many things on her head, i do not want to mention, i prefer to pm them if needed, trying to avoid giving any connection to events.).

I was really good,, maybe wrong, explained that I like her style from our first hangout and I want to see if this is or not. (mean while the 4 days between the first and the second, we where texting, and everything seemed really positive, like she is interested).

The thing is, after our chat about this, with no pressure, we still wanted to see me again + if she was better this weekend would be a good thing to do so.

She was more warm than the dinner after our small talk, and because we have many thing in common, we have grounds to meet again.


The thing is, should i drop it? give more space and go slow, or something else?
the next moment after the failed dinner, she was apologetic through text, and today she was keeping a bit of texting going on, like before.

Do you need more details?

P.S> the kids are not staying with her, but she will have them after she moves to her own place.
 

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Here is your problem:

Some days ago I met suddenly a clever woman, about 30s...
(She has kids, divorced and many things on her head, i do not want to mention, i prefer to pm them if needed, trying to avoid giving any connection to events.).
If you think she's clever, you must be the stupidest person on the forum.
 

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LiveFreeX said:
Here is your problem:




If you think she's clever, you must be the stupidest person on the forum.
I might be the stupiest... At least socially ;)

So lets say clever enough to attract me.
 

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BrightV said:
Hey guys,

We where walking with the others of the tour, but only talking the two of us, suddenly we lost the other (cause we where walking faster) She didn't seem to care and we went for lunch and then for coffee. We talked about 4-5 hours after that tour.
You were alone with her for up to 5 hours and yet you do not mention touching or kissing. There are only 2 things that really get a woman's attention: 1) Kissing her and 2) When more intimate, being inside her. These two physical acts are how a woman's interest in a man sky rocket. The right man being physical with her signifies, strong desire to the women and therefore, the high likelihood that the woman can eventually have access to all the man's resources.

BrightV said:
We left each other in the evening, and the same day we arranged a second time to meet. This was today. (3 days after).
Sounds like a few days later, for whatever reason, her interest level dropped. Perhaps if you were more phyiscal with her by kissing on the first meeting, she would not have flaked. Her actions indicate very low interest level. Maybe because you were not physical the first time or maybe because there is another guy in the picture.

BrightV said:
While i was paying the bill, she wanted to pay, but as a gent, I did say this is a mine and blah blah... then she dropped the bomb: I more or less see it like a friendly date, cause I am not into anything due to many things i have.
(She has kids, divorced and many things on her head, i do not want to mention, i prefer to pm them if needed, trying to avoid giving any connection to events.).
She gave you a second chance to kiss, but you showed her low desire and potential lack of willingness to commit to her. Women want high value men who can't keep their hands off her as this signals strong desire and higher probability that the woman can suck the man dry of his resources. So, her being a nice girl, she gave you a nice excuse and said "bye, bye."

BrightV said:
I was really good,, maybe wrong, explained that I like her style from our first hangout and I want to see if this is or not. (mean while the 4 days between the first and the second, we where texting, and everything seemed really positive, like she is interested).
Women want a man who will lose control physically over them, not a nice guy. Woman are feeling based and explanations and logical thought are not what they are about. They are about feeling their way to get the best genes from one man and the best way to get the best resources from another man.


BrightV said:
The thing is, after our chat about this, with no pressure, we still wanted to see me again + if she was better this weekend would be a good thing to do so.

She was more warm than the dinner after our small talk, and because we have many thing in common, we have grounds to meet again.
Congrats! You are her new male friend that can provide her with resources while she doesn't have to provide you with anything physical in return. Her interest level in you is zero. Maybe she can collect a few more male friends until she can find the best guy with the best genes and then find the best guy with the best resources. These two guys will be having sex with her. You will not.


BrightV said:
The thing is, should i drop it? give more space and go slow, or something else?
the next moment after the failed dinner, she was apologetic through text, and today she was keeping a bit of texting going on, like before.
Start with a new girl. Get better at understanding a women's actions. Translate EVERY word a woman says. The are built from the ground up to be kind of deceitful and hide what they are doing for the good of the species. Never take a woman at face value.

BrightV said:
P.S> the kids are not staying with her, but she will have them after she moves to her own place.
You just met her and you are thinking about her kids? Why????:nono:
 

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1. I am not good at touching, have to fix that (maybe is the no1 reason for so many failures).
2. Yes the interest seemed down on our hangout, eventhough she was sick, which is not an excuse


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If you've tried contacting her or arranging another meeting and she's not responsive, forget this one for now.

You are investing too much time thinking about this girl, and need to start talking to others asap. Start reading the site as often as you can, and you will start to understand things better.

Just because you're not good at touching doesn't indicate the reason for "so many failures". There is something much deeper that you must find, and you will if you put forth the effort.

Again, drop this girl for now. If she's interested, she will get back to you. If not, you get your pick of the million more around us.
 

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gov87 said:
If you've tried contacting her or arranging another meeting and she's not responsive, forget this one for now.

You are investing too much time thinking about this girl, and need to start talking to others asap. Start reading the site as often as you can, and you will start to understand things better.

Just because you're not good at touching doesn't indicate the reason for "so many failures". There is something much deeper that you must find, and you will if you put forth the effort.

Again, drop this girl for now. If she's interested, she will get back to you. If not, you get your pick of the million more around us.

The long story short:
I was always being too much overweight, for my Country it is not normal, Due to health issues i was 400lbs(180kg), till my 27... now at 33 i am 240lbs (110kg)... this didn't allow me to train my self on anything related to women.
Before you accuse of anything.... for my body size, think it is not the food!
And the war i've gave is huge, but nvm.
+ a computer geek, which is also a step back to socialising (and if you guys think i am wrong... you find your self wrong again)... but most of it was the health issues i've have had

So back to the subject...

1. she is texting back, and making normal chat on that.
2. she already after our last (failed try, cause she was ill, and now i am too, two days after the goodbye normal/friendly kissing) (which was the reason to make the date short, mentioned to go out again, but nothing arranged
3. yesterday we had some texting and then I stopped, to leave some space, I do not know if it is ok, but i believe it is!

I am also reading around the site and trying to connect them....
+ something last, i have a light form of ADHD,so for me emotions/understanding of them and other stuff are not soooo easy, but when they come are strong.

My english might be confusing/crap but, it is not my native language :)
 

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The FIRST problem I see is you were too much a puppy dog. You sat there wagging your tail hoping to get petted for 5 hours. You NEED to kiss her... and maybe more before the 5 hours are up. Of the last 4 women I've banged. 2 were long distance talking, then we'd meet. I was having sex with both about 2-3 hours after meeting in person. ANOTHER was I just met her at the bar and was banging in 3 hours. The last one, we'd been "friends" for awhile, I went over to her place for a drink, and 3 hours later we were banging.....
 

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You are right, although I have "training" issues. I am learning


The other thing i have... she is keeping a discussion, but disappears randomly and replies the next day...

Even though we are now on a next date arranged (for sure she was ill, i am 2 days after in the bed too)..
do not know how to do and what, when i flirt or compliment i get smilies and (ahahahas) even when i did it live!

I am nt an donjuan type, even if i am writing an 20years old questions (think about it, with no experience at 30s, due to life issues... it will sound like that ;)


Ah and on the first time out, was by mistake, cause we lost a group / was not flirting so much from my side, but i just fall for that chick....

I know confusing
 
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