hey guys, is pretending to have a moment of "weakness" good? I know about the alpha men rules whereby to be a king and masculine at all times. But I saw the movie “wedding crashers” and the guys always seem to have a moment of “weakness”in front of the ladies and the ladies just seem to ache for them. I also read somewhere that this is to fully exploit the women’s motherly instinct. Is that feasible?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
pretending to be weak
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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Sounds like some afc crap to me. You shouldn't be learning about women from what you read or see on tv. You should be going out and seeing what works for yourself.
In my experience there is such a thing as conveying too much value. If you seem to have everything then you can potentially intimidate a girl by overselling. It helps to have the instincts to see when this is happening and tone yourself down with a little self deprecating humor or even some genuine display of vulnerability. The key is to match her level of energy/self-worth so it feels like you both are in the saem league.
Iceberg
Master Don Juan
Let me put it to you this way: Has your mother tried to bang you?kelv said:hey guys, is pretending to have a moment of "weakness" good? I know about the alpha men rules whereby to be a king and masculine at all times. But I saw the movie “wedding crashers” and the guys always seem to have a moment of “weakness”in front of the ladies and the ladies just seem to ache for them. I also read somewhere that this is to fully exploit the women’s motherly instinct. Is that feasible?
omkara
Senior Don Juan
Roissy post on vulnerability game:
http://roissy.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/vulnerability-game/
http://roissy.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/vulnerability-game/
# Don’t reveal more than one vulnerability about yourself. You may be tempted to do this when you see the positive reaction you get as your date’s eyes light up, but the persuasive confessional power of Soft Underbelly Game is quickly lost with repeated use. “Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention I’m afraid of toy dogs and old ladies, too!” “Um, OK, that’s… strange. Listen, I’ve gotta go. [whispering to herself] beta.”
# Don’t run vulnerability game when you first meet a girl. Trying to capture a girl’s interest by sheepishly owning up to a secret fear is known as forced rapport. Emotional connection is effective only after sexy dominance has been established. This is one reason why rock stars can get away with crooning love songs like emo betas without suffering a hit to their sexual market value.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
powpow
Senior Don Juan
sharing a vulnerability increases trust. even if you make up your vulnerability or weak spot, just the fact that you said it conveys that your are self aware and confident. odds are that the girl will respond some time or later and confess one of her weaknesses. its a real trust builder man.
sharing multiple vulnerabilities makes you seem kind like a loser. keep it to one. even if you have to make it up.
sharing multiple vulnerabilities makes you seem kind like a loser. keep it to one. even if you have to make it up.
I'm in the Mood
Master Don Juan
Alpha men don't pretend. If you're going to have a "moment of weakness" to see if it works, you'd better make it for real. I've never seen the movie though, so I'm not really sure what you mean by "moment of weakness." Good luck though!kelv said:hey guys, is pretending to have a moment of "weakness" good? I know about the alpha men rules whereby to be a king and masculine at all times. But I saw the movie “wedding crashers” and the guys always seem to have a moment of “weakness”in front of the ladies and the ladies just seem to ache for them. I also read somewhere that this is to fully exploit the women’s motherly instinct. Is that feasible?