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How long/much effort did it take for you to bang your virgins?
How long? About 4 months.

Effort? More like patience. She kept moving away because she was in so much pain. Lots of crying.
 
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3.) Russian girl in Russia that I would talk to. She was in a small town. She taught me some Russian. She wanted to lose her virginity. We would video chat and she would send spicy pics ( no nudes). She was a pain and very bad personality.
Did you went to Russia? Or did she visit you?
 

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About 4 months. She kept moving away because she was in so much pain. Lots of crying.
Same man. Its a many hours long process. Sometimes it takes a couple days to break that seal. Its an ordeal because of their pain lol.
 

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Did you went to Russia? Or did she visit you?
Got my Russian visa, got to the airport. The Ukraine war had just started. Something in my gut told me that this was a stupid move. So I rerouted my flight to Istanbul Turkey. I ended up dating a girl there.
 

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Bro so never actually had or dated a virgin. Yet you are steadfast in your position because of logic. Since when did women operate based on logic?
It's me that operates on logic.
Regarding your 2 cases: firstly, they're both black women, I have no experience with black women but from what I've read on this forum I gather they're more problematic (more bitchy, masculine etc).
Secondly, spending hours on the phone is bad on your part....you're supposed to be a busy guy (even if just sitting in a chair looking at the wall and meditating). The interaction with the girl should be face 2 face...communication is way better that way, you can get physical etc
Thirdly, the deep character issues you mention in both cases won't suddenly dissapear because they fvck 1 or 2 other guys. C'mon man, isn't that obvious?
 

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I had a bachelors degree by 20, a few post graduates degrees by 25. Relatively succesful job/career. But yeah, I Might have a bunch of mental illness for all I know. Those things are not mutually exclusive.
So why mention it then? It shows you are intelligent (or rather you can memorise books), which gives a higher probability and susceptibility to mental illness. A lot of guys on here are very smart, autistic, and socially inept with mental health issues they refuse to accept (like promiscuous women and their value).
 

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It's me that operates on logic.
Regarding your 2 cases: firstly, they're both black women, I have no experience with black women but from what I've read on this forum I gather they're more problematic (more bitchy, masculine etc).
Secondly, spending hours on the phone is bad on your part....you're supposed to be a busy guy (even if just sitting in a chair looking at the wall and meditating). The interaction with the girl should be face 2 face...communication is way better that way, you can get physical etc
Thirdly, the deep character issues you mention in both cases won't suddenly dissapear because they fvck 1 or 2 other guys. C'mon man, isn't that obvious?
All healthy girls are virgin. Not all virgins are healthy.

We have to be careful not to overdealize sacred cows such as virgins and foreign women. In my experience both these things come with their own hidden evils. Women are a pain in the azz no matter what.
 

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Ok I’m going to expose personal experience here that I maybe shouldn’t.

My first wife was a virgin when we met, she was brought up in a country where this is commonplace, and not out of the ordinary a few decades ago. I had scant sexual experience as I was quite young when we married.

She truly was my first love, like head over heels, deer in the headlights kind of love. We both were youngsters living abroad - the whole world was our oyster.

A few weeks after we finally decided to get married and two weeks before we did we consummated the deal. We’d been doing everything but until that point, but no penetration. We literally learned everything we knew from each other from the beginning. It was actually her during a naked make out session that finally basically thrust her whole body onto me. It was amazing, we both frankly were so astonished by the emotion surrounding it we held each other for a few minutes and kissed until we went at it like jackrabbits. She wasn’t on bc and I was not wrapped.

In the leading weeks to our marriage we fooled around every day, for hours. I learned about the value of have a strong pelvic floor and my pullout game was impeccable, never knocked her up.

It took her a YEAR to finally have her first bonafide PIV only O and it was so overwhelming for her she shook for a good long time. I was so filled with emotion and pride.

We always had sex for more than an hour every single day we were married except when I was deployed. It was just the most magical thing in the world. She became multiply orgasmic over time as well. It was always the one thing that worked for us up until our divorce and for a while thereafter .

Now the other shoe:
We were so young, in our mid 20’s we realized we’d grown into completely different people and were no longer compatible or had the same life goals. It was heartbreaking but we divorced semi-amicably - we never had kids.

So virginity and (if you can pull it off) amazing sex is not panacea it’s not a magic bullet.

She was stunningly beautiful by any standard, submissive and mine, but still it didn’t work.

Find someone you love and someone you love fncking if you want an LTR. Everyone has a past, adjust.
Damn dude this is a deep story. Wow. Its kind of cool that you were able to discover each other sexually. Thats a deep bond.

If you guys did not make it then I dont think there is too much hope for marriage. Btw your post proves my point. Compatibility is superior to virginity. It would be nice to have a compatible virgin but the world is not perfect.
 

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I thought of another way to put into words the issue I have with past sexual history:
So let's say you meet a 28yrs old girl...she's been with 5 guys since she was 18, so 5 guys in the past 10 years. Now what are the odds she's going to be faithful to you (one guy) for the next 2 years, let alone 20 if you want kids? :rolleyes:

I mean if she's the type that's 'learning, growing, discovering, reinventing herself' and all the other euphemisms for what essentially is lack of loyalty and/or discernment when entering a relationship, then it makes no logical sense to me to want to marry such a girl and expect a happy life together.
 
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