"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Nn877

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How would you guys handle this?

Scenario: me and gf work very close to a mall and she lives outta of town as well as I do. I'm working today and she texted me her purse got shipped to the store and if I could please pick it up. (I'm seeing her tmw) she doesn't work until Tuesday.

So I was kinda put off by the request, I'm not a delivery boy esp it being a purse on top. Am I overreacting and should just grab it for her or tell her no? I don't want her to thing I can start doing all these favors or requests for her. I just look at it like would an alpha male pick up his gf purse seems kinda afc to me. I know she's prob gonna be upset I say no and might affect tmw or not. Thoughts? Thanks
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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SgtSplacker

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Dude if you don't feel like doing it then tell her that. Who cares if she gets pissed, you're a man and do what you want it'll probably turn her on deep inside. With that being said if she is nice to you I may repay the previous favors and do it for her. Doesn't sound like too big a deal.
 

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Lol.....just pick it up pal. Sounds like you overdosed on the "red pill". Alpha males still do favors.
 

El Payaso

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What do you want to do? We can't tell you what to do and she can't either. If you don't feel like doing it, tell her you're not doing it. Simple.
 

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Lol def overdosed on red pill.....well I just don't want to start becoming some favor giving in a habit as in maintaining frame. She did send me a pic of a Victoria secret bag saying she's ready for tmw night. I guess a favor would be okay.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

Harry Wilmington

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This is called "over-analyzing a task." If you're working at the store and can pick it up, what's the issue? Unless you're also not working or going by the store for the next few days, pick up the dang purse. All this "Alpha/Beta" talk has everyone all panicked about making the "wrong" move that will make them look "weak," but the fact that you're worrying about it in the first place would technically still put you in the "beta" category.
 

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Nn877 said:
How would you guys handle this?

Scenario: me and gf work very close to a mall and she lives outta of town as well as I do. I'm working today and she texted me her purse got shipped to the store and if I could please pick it up. (I'm seeing her tmw) she doesn't work until Tuesday.

So I was kinda put off by the request, I'm not a delivery boy esp it being a purse on top. Am I overreacting and should just grab it for her or tell her no?
You should tell her "What would I get out of it?"
 
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