"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Post your field experimentation ideas here, and I'll do them.
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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Yeah, this guy makes alot of good points, but I would say that this system works best for good looking guys. You cant always get away with the straight forward approach if your not already obviously the shytChrizZ said:
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http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=131200
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Of course it works best for good looking guys and so does everything else.Dongfu said:
However how many guys do you know that truly exhibit ModeOne behavior?
95% of all guys are pu$$ies in todays society, that's why it is so effective.
That's the secret of the jerk vs. niceguy debate.
The jerk is acting normal around women while the nice guy is just being a player hating, jealous pu$$y.
You don't have to be good looking, you have to be attractive.
CONFIDENCE and DOMINANCE are the two main attributes that make a man attractive to women.
You become "the shyt" by growing balls and that process takes time and courage.
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Something else about this needs to be clarified. WHen this guy says to tell women what's really on your mind, he is not saying to walk up to women and say, "let's have some hot steamy sex." That would be trying to sell the dong before you make the trust sale.ChrizZ said:
I dont know if the opener you recommended on this thread is supposed to be based on that.
To be straight forward, as this mode guy recommends means to express your interest in a cool, calm, dignified way. It's not about telling every woman you like what you really want to do with her as soon as you meet.
"I'd like to have sex with you maybe twice, and then i'd like to met your friends and fvck them too. And after that I'd like you to be my pivot."
Women like a little suspense. They want to be a little unsure exactly how you feel. Otherwise there is no mystery, and your just another horny guy. It's a given that guys want sex.
Women want you to be direct about you interest in them as a complete person, not just another, hopefully shaved, clean little pvssy.
Admittedly, I was feeling a bit lazy earlier today, so I decided to try this one because it struck me as a hilarious picture in my head. I expected to be slapped, so that anything else would be a relief to me.Mayfly said:
Experiment #4
Date: 11/20/07
Idea: Approach with a misogynistic joke.
Idea by: Mayfly
Target: HB 7, White
Results:
I walked up to this pretty good-looking chick that was smoking a cigarette outside of the food court (Approaches 1-3 were inside of it). Blonde hair, in a ponytail (probably would've been a 7.5+ if her hair was down). She was alone, and wasn't on a cell phone, so I saw an opportune time to test the boundaries and limits of a random female.
ME: Excuse me, I need a favor of you. (I was trying ridiculously hard not to bust out in laughter from the thought)
HER: What?
ME: I need a favor of you.
HER: I'm not interested.
ME: Wash my dishes.
I started laughing halfway through the delivery. I also expected a smack across the face when I saw her reaction. She looked at me with a disgusted face, then did a 180, so I just walked away laughing, even though I did feel kinda bad. This wasn't one of those disgusted faces that appear with a confused look, this was where the face cringes completely and wrinkles appear because every muscle on the face is disgusted. I felt like a bully, but hey, it was a funny little experiment.
Reaction: I saw "not interested" coming because people usually hang around that area handing out fliers or asking people to sign petitions from school, buy stuff, join a group, support this or that, etc. Now, I didn't learn anything from this.. but the idea was too hilarious to pass up. Looking back on the actual post from Mayfly, I didn't really make a misogynistic joke, just a misogynistic statement.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Never really had approach anxiety, and the last approach was pointless, just for laughs. And check the first 3 experiments, rapport + closing has gone over pretty well so farTear Gas said:props for having the balls to pull that, but whats the point? i think you've got you're approach anxiety under control by now, so you just gotta work on rapport + closing
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I don't get this. Any part of it.. how is that question an opener? And the friend thing.. wha? Just seems like 2 completely random ideas strung together?Bonez said:
Good tip, but not really what this thread is about.. I'm trying to prove tactics and methods either effective or ineffective by experimenting with them.skirtChaser said:
Let's hear it. The thread needs more ideas anyway :wave:Mayfly said:It's all good man. At least you tried it. I think a joke would go over better since you can actually just say you were joking. I have another idea, but you would really need to throw it out on the table.
Haha.. I'm passing on this because I don't find it heroic or really ****y at all, I just find it to be an obnoxious move that if somebody tried to pull while I was waiting in line, I'd pound his face in. :trouble:LostAndConfused said:
There's no better time than now. Shoot!Snow Plowman said:
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.