"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Women smoking.
Me: *gasp* You're smoking, while pregnant? *walks away*

Maybe she'll shout "I'm not pregnant."

Women walking their dogs:
Me: do you guys call it, cats and dogs, or do you call it dogs and cats?
Older line or continued line can be talking about the new Pokemon dogs.

Women working in clothing stores:
Me: do you sell any multi-colored clothing? Like 2 or 3 colors *points to my jacket that is 3 colors*

Women working in jewelry stores:
Me: do you sell any platinum? (Convo about how now is a good time to invest in platinum).

Women walking around barefoot:
Me: need me to buy you some shoes?

Tougher women sitting around in college campuses:
Me: if you were looking to buy a home in [city], but you found out the [city] police killed someone in that home, would that increase, decrease, or stay the same, for your interest in buying the home?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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WTF, man?

Recently I was at the airport, I was reading. Two women sat across from me. After like 30 seconds, I looked up and asked, "Where are you guys headed?"...

On the plane, I had window seat, lady at aisle seat, no one in the middle. She was reading. After 10 minutes, she laid down the book in the middle seat. Book was titled "The World According to Garp". I asked, "Who is Garp? Must be pretty important guy"...
 

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Women smoking.
Me: *gasp* You're smoking, while pregnant? *walks away*

Maybe she'll shout "I'm not pregnant."

Women walking their dogs:
Me: do you guys call it, cats and dogs, or do you call it dogs and cats?
Older line or continued line can be talking about the new Pokemon dogs.

Women working in clothing stores:
Me: do you sell any multi-colored clothing? Like 2 or 3 colors *points to my jacket that is 3 colors*

Women working in jewelry stores:
Me: do you sell any platinum? (Convo about how now is a good time to invest in platinum).

Women walking around barefoot:
Me: need me to buy you some shoes?

Tougher women sitting around in college campuses:
Me: if you were looking to buy a home in [city], but you found out the [city] police killed someone in that home, would that increase, decrease, or stay the same, for your interest in buying the home?
These are just weird conversations man.
 

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They aren't meant to be conversations, at least not the top half.

They're meant to be "wow he said something to me and then left" excitement.
SMFH...why bother? Guess you want to be forever memorialized in their girls group chat as being "that weirdo who said something strange then left".

Congrats.

I'm not sure you even realize just how weird doing stuff like this is and that it will have the exact opposite effect of "excitement".
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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SMFH...why bother?
I remember reading a thing on GirlsChase website, where some guy posted he was dressed in a suit and tie and going straight to a job interview... Then some women said something sexual to him and left, like from walking in opposite directions, in a building... It's like she knew he had to be some place so she used that opportunity on him. And made him feel like he missed out. She wouldn't have done it to a guy sitting shirtless in his front yard.

So this is doing the same thing to them. Make you stand out from the pack.

This is like years ago when I run, girls shout "run Forest run" because they know I won't stop running...
 

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I remember reading a thing on GirlsChase website, where some guy posted he was dressed in a suit and tie and going straight to a job interview... Then some women said something sexual to him and left, like from walking in opposite directions, in a building... It's like she knew he had to be some place so she used that opportunity on him. And made him feel like he missed out. She wouldn't have done it to a guy sitting shirtless in his front yard.

So this is doing the same thing to them. Make you stand out from the pack.

This is like years ago when I run, girls shout "run Forest run" because they know I won't stop running...
This sounds pretty socially inept to take something like that completely out of context and then try to use it in that way.

I think you really need to work on your social calibration. A LOT.
 

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This sounds pretty socially inept to take something like that completely out of context and then try to use it in that way.
Yes, make a girl horny without even talking to her is another art. Same with finding ways to get women to approach you 1st.

I think you really need to work on your social calibration. A LOT.
Only if that were the point.
 

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I remember reading a thing on GirlsChase website, where some guy posted he was dressed in a suit and tie and going straight to a job interview... Then some women said something sexual to him and left, like from walking in opposite directions, in a building... It's like she knew he had to be some place so she used that opportunity on him. And made him feel like he missed out. She wouldn't have done it to a guy sitting shirtless in his front yard.

So this is doing the same thing to them. Make you stand out from the pack.

This is like years ago when I run, girls shout "run Forest run" because they know I won't stop running...
Girls can say anything. It will almost never be seen as creepy.
Guys have to be much more careful. You can’t extrapolate woman to man as man to woman.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Yes, make a girl horny without even talking to her is another art. Same with finding ways to get women to approach you 1st.
You can’t find ‘ways to get women to approach you first.’. At this point in your life, if they haven’t, they won’t. It’s on you to approach.
The possible exceptions to my statement being if you were obese & lost weight, had major cosmetic surgery, wen’t from skinny-fat to shredded. Dressing like a slob to GQ model fashion…
 

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Women smoking.
Me: *gasp* You're smoking, while pregnant? *walks away*

Maybe she'll shout "I'm not pregnant."

Women walking their dogs:
Me: do you guys call it, cats and dogs, or do you call it dogs and cats?
Older line or continued line can be talking about the new Pokemon dogs.

Women working in clothing stores:
Me: do you sell any multi-colored clothing? Like 2 or 3 colors *points to my jacket that is 3 colors*

Women working in jewelry stores:
Me: do you sell any platinum? (Convo about how now is a good time to invest in platinum).

Women walking around barefoot:
Me: need me to buy you some shoes?

Tougher women sitting around in college campuses:
Me: if you were looking to buy a home in [city], but you found out the [city] police killed someone in that home, would that increase, decrease, or stay the same, for your interest in buying the home?
If you were Chad, you might be able to get away with these. Otherwise. Don’t.
 

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Or: ‘Creepy guy said weird stuff to me. Yuk!’
Depends on what the guy said, as well as how the guy looks relative to you and how he's dressed.
You can’t find ‘ways to get women to approach you first.’. At this point in your life, if they haven’t, they won’t. It’s on you to approach.
There are, just that not all men can get approached by their target women.
This honestly has no point.
Women do things all the time in the belief of karma. That served no purpose.

So you're right to some point that making small talk with women randomly will never add to anything, but this is just like any other statistics.

People who do a road trip across the country can make chit chat with all kinds of women working in restaurants/gas stations but that won't stop them from doing what they do.

At least I'm doing this to women in my city.
 

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Women smoking.
Me: *gasp* You're smoking, while pregnant? *walks away*

Maybe she'll shout "I'm not pregnant."

Women walking their dogs:
Me: do you guys call it, cats and dogs, or do you call it dogs and cats?
Older line or continued line can be talking about the new Pokemon dogs.

Women working in clothing stores:
Me: do you sell any multi-colored clothing? Like 2 or 3 colors *points to my jacket that is 3 colors*

Women working in jewelry stores:
Me: do you sell any platinum? (Convo about how now is a good time to invest in platinum).

Women walking around barefoot:
Me: need me to buy you some shoes?

Tougher women sitting around in college campuses:
Me: if you were looking to buy a home in [city], but you found out the [city] police killed someone in that home, would that increase, decrease, or stay the same, for your interest in buying the home?
If you want to be considered weird, these are some great lines to use.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What to know something ironic?

I knew this thread was going to be people that would rather talk down about the examples I provide, then to provide examples they use or even better 1s. The fact that the 2nd doesn't happen shows it's less likely they have any. Feel free to make the "No, we have examples, but we just don't want to tell you."

I guess only the 1st replier provided examples, along seeing a woman reading a book and asking her about the book title...
 

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Girl eating a donut:
Would you like me to fill your hole?

Girl eating some cheese:
Want some salami to go with that?

Girl eating pasta:
Wanna see my noodle?

Girl reading a book:
Looking for a romantic fantasy?

Girl riding a horse:
Wanna ride my stallion?

Girl talking on the phone:
Hey, you sound like my favorite phone sex operator!

Girl calling 911:
Where's the fire? I'll put it out with my hose.
 

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Ron Livingston's initial approach to Jen Anniston in Office Space is a superb opener in RL:

"I'm getting a table at(insert time and location)... Join me"
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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