"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Hey guys,

New here. Been a fan of this site...truly opened my eyes as well as showed how big of an AFC I am hahaha. Well, learning day by day is what matters.

Long story short - was getting it on with a chick at a club - dancing and making out, repeat etc. Unfortunately wasn't able to take her home, as she was adamant about housing her friend from out-of-state who was with her that night. Got her #, and bounced.

Texted her the next day late afternoon - the standard "hey it's [ ], you get home safe last night?"

Surprised she replied, saying it was a really long night, capping it off with a smiley face (oh girls and their emoticons)

[waited couple hours before responding]

me: good to hear. we should hang out sometime, you live in the city right?
her: yep! sounds good to me.
me: great

I didn't go into logistics, I wanted to leave her hanging for a while. Reasons for this is a) I want to figure out what we can do b) I need to get some work done before thinking about step a). Plan is to hit her up in the next 1-2 days, ask her if she's free on the weekend, and see her.

Now....senior donjuans! What are some good date options? Would it be a bad idea if I suggest dinner, then taking her to a friend's birthday party (at a really nice club).

Never had experience in this scenario, and would love some advice :)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

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gh15 said:
Hey guys,

New here. Been a fan of this site...truly opened my eyes as well as showed how big of an AFC I am hahaha. Well, learning day by day is what matters.

Long story short - was getting it on with a chick at a club - dancing and making out, repeat etc. Unfortunately wasn't able to take her home, as she was adamant about housing her friend from out-of-state who was with her that night. Got her #, and bounced.

Texted her the next day late afternoon - the standard "hey it's [ ], you get home safe last night?"

Surprised she replied, saying it was a really long night, capping it off with a smiley face (oh girls and their emoticons)

[waited couple hours before responding]

me: good to hear. we should hang out sometime, you live in the city right?
her: yep! sounds good to me.
me: great

I didn't go into logistics, I wanted to leave her hanging for a while. Reasons for this is a) I want to figure out what we can do b) I need to get some work done before thinking about step a). Plan is to hit her up in the next 1-2 days, ask her if she's free on the weekend, and see her.

Now....senior donjuans! What are some good date options? Would it be a bad idea if I suggest dinner, then taking her to a friend's birthday party (at a really nice club).

Never had experience in this scenario, and would love some advice :)
Look up Hookah lounges in your area and take her there, or bowling, pool something fun.

You met the chick once. You don't really know her so wait on dinner. The friends party depending on the chick may be a little too much pressure making her think you're already introducing her to your friends. She might like the party but not bother with you after with thoughts of your friends meeting her and you moving too fast for a first "date".
 

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hookah is a great idea (will have to see if she's down for it). was thinking bar night or maybe pool.

Seems like there's a divided support on this board for texting vs calling for setting up dates. I was thinking I call her to raise the interest level. Or would it not matter given she has decent IL (assuming she doesnt flake last minute)
 
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