"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Post Club Approach: Cassanova or Aggressive?

FutureSpartan

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Which approach works best if you're unable to get the girl home from the club/bar that night and forced to take a number and call her later.

Cassanova
-call 2 or 3 days later....Tell her you had fun with her
-take her out somewhere nice/fun the following week
-if she flakes, plays hard to get, back off and try again a few days later
-Be calm, cool, and smooth in your interaction with her
-Back and forth dance which usually takes a few weeks to a month for something serious to develop

Aggressive
-Call her the next day and try and ask to come over/her come over
-if she ignores your call....dont wait call her again later that night.
-Keep persisting for a few days until you hear "yes" or "**** off"
-If nothing comes out of it before the next weekend....move on.

Since I just want to get laid....I would think being aggressive and forcing her to lay her hand ASAP would save me all the bs that entails "courting." If i don't get her theres always more women to meet next week.

What do you guys think?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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"im going to get your number then get in your pants". thats exactly what your actions are saying, and im positive girls are picking up on that. EVEN if the girl is %100 down to bang, as SOON as she gets the vibe that all you want to do is get in her pants. You lost her.

By contacting her and trying to setup a date on the FIRST interaction, makes chicks think you don't really want to get to know them.. you just want to meet up and bang - throw a little rapport in, give her a glimpse of what SHE will be missing, create some fun times on the phone or text, THEN tell her your going out to XYZ and she NEEDS to check this place out because its AWESOME and has midgets doing backflips off bar stools

You will increase your lays if you go this route, believe me.
 

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the305 said:
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"im going to get your number then get in your pants". thats exactly what your actions are saying, and im positive girls are picking up on that. EVEN if the girl is %100 down to bang, as SOON as she gets the vibe that all you want to do is get in her pants. You lost her.

By contacting her and trying to setup a date on the FIRST interaction, makes chicks think you don't really want to get to know them.. you just want to meet up and bang - throw a little rapport in, give her a glimpse of what SHE will be missing, create some fun times on the phone or text, THEN tell her your going out to XYZ and she NEEDS to check this place out because its AWESOME and has midgets doing backflips off bar stools

You will increase your lays if you go this route, believe me.
Your right...most girls want some sort of indication that you value them as a person not just another hole to bang. Attraction is never an issue with me as most girls are receptive to my approach....but i need to work on building comfort and a safe vibe. I should have know this from past experience i slip and let my little head guide my thinking.

Thanks for the advice!
 

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the305 said:
neither

"im going to get your number then get in your pants". thats exactly what your actions are saying, and im positive girls are picking up on that. EVEN if the girl is %100 down to bang, as SOON as she gets the vibe that all you want to do is get in her pants. You lost her.

By contacting her and trying to setup a date on the FIRST interaction, makes chicks think you don't really want to get to know them.. you just want to meet up and bang - throw a little rapport in, give her a glimpse of what SHE will be missing, create some fun times on the phone or text, THEN tell her your going out to XYZ and she NEEDS to check this place out because its AWESOME and has midgets doing backflips off bar stools

You will increase your lays if you go this route, believe me.


Thanks a lot for this post... I was always wondering why the girls didn't want to meet with me after having their phone numbers...

+1 rep !
 

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You are missing the comfort element of this whole situation. You missed it that night, which is why you didn't get a ONS lay. And if you miss it again, then you surely won't be getting anywhere near her pants.

Speed seduction works under certain conditions. But you have to remember to not make the girl feel like a slvt. Which is what both of your methods imply.

Sometimes courting is necessary. She has to at least feel a little comfortable in order to sleep with you. I know it sucks, but sometimes you have to be a bullsh!tter.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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FutureSpartan

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Scars said:
You are missing the comfort element of this whole situation. You missed it that night, which is why you didn't get a ONS lay. And if you miss it again, then you surely won't be getting anywhere near her pants.

Speed seduction works under certain conditions. But you have to remember to not make the girl feel like a slvt. Which is what both of your methods imply.

Sometimes courting is necessary. She has to at least feel a little comfortable in order to sleep with you. I know it sucks, but sometimes you have to be a bullsh!tter.
Thanks for your advice Scars.....I was able to pull from that same club a few weeks earlier and it worked by me "courting" and getting her on the second date. Being confident, patient, and nice seems to work well for me.
 
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