"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Post Club Approach: Cassanova or Aggressive?

FutureSpartan

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Which approach works best if you're unable to get the girl home from the club/bar that night and forced to take a number and call her later.

Cassanova
-call 2 or 3 days later....Tell her you had fun with her
-take her out somewhere nice/fun the following week
-if she flakes, plays hard to get, back off and try again a few days later
-Be calm, cool, and smooth in your interaction with her
-Back and forth dance which usually takes a few weeks to a month for something serious to develop

Aggressive
-Call her the next day and try and ask to come over/her come over
-if she ignores your call....dont wait call her again later that night.
-Keep persisting for a few days until you hear "yes" or "**** off"
-If nothing comes out of it before the next weekend....move on.

Since I just want to get laid....I would think being aggressive and forcing her to lay her hand ASAP would save me all the bs that entails "courting." If i don't get her theres always more women to meet next week.

What do you guys think?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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the305

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"im going to get your number then get in your pants". thats exactly what your actions are saying, and im positive girls are picking up on that. EVEN if the girl is %100 down to bang, as SOON as she gets the vibe that all you want to do is get in her pants. You lost her.

By contacting her and trying to setup a date on the FIRST interaction, makes chicks think you don't really want to get to know them.. you just want to meet up and bang - throw a little rapport in, give her a glimpse of what SHE will be missing, create some fun times on the phone or text, THEN tell her your going out to XYZ and she NEEDS to check this place out because its AWESOME and has midgets doing backflips off bar stools

You will increase your lays if you go this route, believe me.
 

FutureSpartan

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the305 said:
neither

"im going to get your number then get in your pants". thats exactly what your actions are saying, and im positive girls are picking up on that. EVEN if the girl is %100 down to bang, as SOON as she gets the vibe that all you want to do is get in her pants. You lost her.

By contacting her and trying to setup a date on the FIRST interaction, makes chicks think you don't really want to get to know them.. you just want to meet up and bang - throw a little rapport in, give her a glimpse of what SHE will be missing, create some fun times on the phone or text, THEN tell her your going out to XYZ and she NEEDS to check this place out because its AWESOME and has midgets doing backflips off bar stools

You will increase your lays if you go this route, believe me.
Your right...most girls want some sort of indication that you value them as a person not just another hole to bang. Attraction is never an issue with me as most girls are receptive to my approach....but i need to work on building comfort and a safe vibe. I should have know this from past experience i slip and let my little head guide my thinking.

Thanks for the advice!
 

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the305 said:
neither

"im going to get your number then get in your pants". thats exactly what your actions are saying, and im positive girls are picking up on that. EVEN if the girl is %100 down to bang, as SOON as she gets the vibe that all you want to do is get in her pants. You lost her.

By contacting her and trying to setup a date on the FIRST interaction, makes chicks think you don't really want to get to know them.. you just want to meet up and bang - throw a little rapport in, give her a glimpse of what SHE will be missing, create some fun times on the phone or text, THEN tell her your going out to XYZ and she NEEDS to check this place out because its AWESOME and has midgets doing backflips off bar stools

You will increase your lays if you go this route, believe me.


Thanks a lot for this post... I was always wondering why the girls didn't want to meet with me after having their phone numbers...

+1 rep !
 

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You are missing the comfort element of this whole situation. You missed it that night, which is why you didn't get a ONS lay. And if you miss it again, then you surely won't be getting anywhere near her pants.

Speed seduction works under certain conditions. But you have to remember to not make the girl feel like a slvt. Which is what both of your methods imply.

Sometimes courting is necessary. She has to at least feel a little comfortable in order to sleep with you. I know it sucks, but sometimes you have to be a bullsh!tter.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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FutureSpartan

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Scars said:
You are missing the comfort element of this whole situation. You missed it that night, which is why you didn't get a ONS lay. And if you miss it again, then you surely won't be getting anywhere near her pants.

Speed seduction works under certain conditions. But you have to remember to not make the girl feel like a slvt. Which is what both of your methods imply.

Sometimes courting is necessary. She has to at least feel a little comfortable in order to sleep with you. I know it sucks, but sometimes you have to be a bullsh!tter.
Thanks for your advice Scars.....I was able to pull from that same club a few weeks earlier and it worked by me "courting" and getting her on the second date. Being confident, patient, and nice seems to work well for me.
 
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