"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Post Club Approach: Cassanova or Aggressive?

FutureSpartan

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Which approach works best if you're unable to get the girl home from the club/bar that night and forced to take a number and call her later.

Cassanova
-call 2 or 3 days later....Tell her you had fun with her
-take her out somewhere nice/fun the following week
-if she flakes, plays hard to get, back off and try again a few days later
-Be calm, cool, and smooth in your interaction with her
-Back and forth dance which usually takes a few weeks to a month for something serious to develop

Aggressive
-Call her the next day and try and ask to come over/her come over
-if she ignores your call....dont wait call her again later that night.
-Keep persisting for a few days until you hear "yes" or "**** off"
-If nothing comes out of it before the next weekend....move on.

Since I just want to get laid....I would think being aggressive and forcing her to lay her hand ASAP would save me all the bs that entails "courting." If i don't get her theres always more women to meet next week.

What do you guys think?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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the305

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"im going to get your number then get in your pants". thats exactly what your actions are saying, and im positive girls are picking up on that. EVEN if the girl is %100 down to bang, as SOON as she gets the vibe that all you want to do is get in her pants. You lost her.

By contacting her and trying to setup a date on the FIRST interaction, makes chicks think you don't really want to get to know them.. you just want to meet up and bang - throw a little rapport in, give her a glimpse of what SHE will be missing, create some fun times on the phone or text, THEN tell her your going out to XYZ and she NEEDS to check this place out because its AWESOME and has midgets doing backflips off bar stools

You will increase your lays if you go this route, believe me.
 

FutureSpartan

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the305 said:
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"im going to get your number then get in your pants". thats exactly what your actions are saying, and im positive girls are picking up on that. EVEN if the girl is %100 down to bang, as SOON as she gets the vibe that all you want to do is get in her pants. You lost her.

By contacting her and trying to setup a date on the FIRST interaction, makes chicks think you don't really want to get to know them.. you just want to meet up and bang - throw a little rapport in, give her a glimpse of what SHE will be missing, create some fun times on the phone or text, THEN tell her your going out to XYZ and she NEEDS to check this place out because its AWESOME and has midgets doing backflips off bar stools

You will increase your lays if you go this route, believe me.
Your right...most girls want some sort of indication that you value them as a person not just another hole to bang. Attraction is never an issue with me as most girls are receptive to my approach....but i need to work on building comfort and a safe vibe. I should have know this from past experience i slip and let my little head guide my thinking.

Thanks for the advice!
 

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the305 said:
neither

"im going to get your number then get in your pants". thats exactly what your actions are saying, and im positive girls are picking up on that. EVEN if the girl is %100 down to bang, as SOON as she gets the vibe that all you want to do is get in her pants. You lost her.

By contacting her and trying to setup a date on the FIRST interaction, makes chicks think you don't really want to get to know them.. you just want to meet up and bang - throw a little rapport in, give her a glimpse of what SHE will be missing, create some fun times on the phone or text, THEN tell her your going out to XYZ and she NEEDS to check this place out because its AWESOME and has midgets doing backflips off bar stools

You will increase your lays if you go this route, believe me.


Thanks a lot for this post... I was always wondering why the girls didn't want to meet with me after having their phone numbers...

+1 rep !
 

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You are missing the comfort element of this whole situation. You missed it that night, which is why you didn't get a ONS lay. And if you miss it again, then you surely won't be getting anywhere near her pants.

Speed seduction works under certain conditions. But you have to remember to not make the girl feel like a slvt. Which is what both of your methods imply.

Sometimes courting is necessary. She has to at least feel a little comfortable in order to sleep with you. I know it sucks, but sometimes you have to be a bullsh!tter.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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FutureSpartan

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Scars said:
You are missing the comfort element of this whole situation. You missed it that night, which is why you didn't get a ONS lay. And if you miss it again, then you surely won't be getting anywhere near her pants.

Speed seduction works under certain conditions. But you have to remember to not make the girl feel like a slvt. Which is what both of your methods imply.

Sometimes courting is necessary. She has to at least feel a little comfortable in order to sleep with you. I know it sucks, but sometimes you have to be a bullsh!tter.
Thanks for your advice Scars.....I was able to pull from that same club a few weeks earlier and it worked by me "courting" and getting her on the second date. Being confident, patient, and nice seems to work well for me.
 
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