Porn is not unrealistic and NoFap is not a cure.

[corrector]

I was okay staying away from that stuff until I wrote that last post. Now I just relapsed back again into escort pics and OF subs. If you are staying away from porn/pics, etc...then talking about it sometimes leads you back into it. It should just be treated like a nuclear fallout site, to be stayed away from.

 

[Snag87]

I only watch softcore porn nowadays. Erotic dancing, maybe exposed breasts. No sex.

 

[Stanley]

He who hesitates masturbates

 

[SargeMaximus]

Hear hear

 

[Travel memoir21]

If you want to be successful in No Fap Long term, you gotta cultivate a spiritual life. That's where a belief in God and faith, having a prayer life comes to play.

 

[Stanley]

there are some stunners though but a hell of a lot of family sedans which have been polished extensively rather than Ferraris.

Brutal, but true lol.

 

[HaleyBaron]

If you want to be successful in No Fap Long term, you gotta cultivate a spiritual life. That's where a belief in God and faith, having a prayer life comes to play.

Nuns and priests are among the horniest people you will meet. They get it on in secret constantly.

 

[corrector]

If you want to be successful in No Fap Long term, you gotta cultivate a spiritual life. That's where a belief in God and faith, having a prayer life comes to play.

Yes, but I do that but still relapse. Sometimes things can happen where you feel that your faith is not real so even through you go throught the motions/habits/cultivations of having a prayer life, belief in God and faith, as you say, but see everything going contrary, or you are snapping at people because you are under pressure, and think if any of this is really real as you are not seeing a good flow that would win anyone to your faith then you say what the heck, eveything sucks, these youtube vids are saying I may not make it anyway, or I have a good head-knowledge but no revelation, infiling, or heart-connection so it feels like zombie-faith therefore let me watch this again, etc... so it is not always that simple.

 

[corrector]

Nuns and priests are among the horniest people you will meet. They get it on in secret constantly.

He was not talking about them. My understanding is that he is talking about laity, not people who have officially become ministers, priests, nuns, etc.... Who voluntarilly want to do this because they believe this thing causes ED, it's bad for the mind, soul, etc.... and want to move up to another level rather than stay in mud.

 

[lost_blackbird]

You’re at 40% body fat AND you watch porn? You’re disgusting.

From one retarded autist to another, is there really any need for this kind of comment?
I am blunt also but I'm not rude with it. I have many strong and quite likely unpalatable
views about lots of things, for the most part I keep them to myself and I certainly don't
go firing disrespectful insults around, even if I get them made at myself from time to time.
There's no need to be that way, it takes all sorts to make the world go round.

 

[Smok1nAce]

My personal opinion as a guy in his early 30s.

Past the age say 25 men shouldn't look at porn habitually.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Speaking just for myself, having gotten three incredible hummers last night and this morning, I personally don’t see any question at this point about the value of nofap and dropping porn. To me now it’s not even close.

 

[corrector]

My personal opinion as a guy in his early 30s.

Past the age say 25 men shouldn't look at porn habitually.

I think it should be the other way around. Most romantic and social opportunities (non transactional) with young and fertile.women with no kids or baggage happen below 25 wheras above 25 is more of an after market. You would really see the benefit, if any, of nofap when you are in your biological and social prime not afterwards.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I think it should be the other way around. Most romantic and social opportunities (non transactional) with young and fertile.women with no kids or baggage happen below 25 wheras above 25 is more of an after market. You would really see the benefit, if any, of nofap when you are in your biological and social prime not afterwards.

I think it’s the other way around, for just those reasons. Earlier on you are in far more positions to capitalize on sex and so the effect of porn is diluted- when your experiences diminish and porn takes a greater piece of your mental capacity, is I am guessing when you become further accustomed and desensitized

 

[LTG71]

The big part of this ideal is women. They hate porn the most because it forces them to have to compete with these women. That means three things:

• Men like women who service them. Most western women hate this.
• Men like women who take care of their appearance and at least is not afraid of showing their female side. Too many women act like men these days.
• Men like women who are seductive. This applies to the first point, but it's more that a woman shows she wants the man to f*ck her, a trait you barely see these days. There are no feminine women walking up to a man and trying to get sex out of him simply to please him [no escorts or hookers apply].

So what is my thoughts on porn in general? Am I praising it? Not at all. A man who has many women has no need for porn. I see it mostly as a tool and as a free market activity upon our culture. It's meant to keep women in check because men give time, attention, and most of all money, toward media that displays sexy women. It's a necessity so that women have to compete in some matter. That is why you have all these women on twitch, onlyfans, and other places because they know that sex sells.

I find it amusing how modern women proclaim that they hate being objectified and start movements like #metoo then turn around and sell pictures of themselves on Onlyfans by choice. Once again, the cognitive dissonance is alarming. The women who are not hot, hate things like porn or any other media platform that celebrates the female form. Women are lazy and hate that they have to compete for attention and resources. Women who maintain their looks monopolize on the opportunities. The ugly, fat, blue haired feminist hates that men like the thin, femininely shaped hottie so they use any tactic they can to shame men. At the same time it is ok for them to make whatever claims they have for preference.

Porn is a problem for women because it promotes what men want, a chick that is DTF and loves to serve him. This is the ideal women, the Madonna/hoe complex. And does watching it “damage” dopamine receptors? No more than any other habit. Too much of anything eventually causes a numbing response on the brain. This is why moderation is often the key to breaking any habit.

Fapping… Well, most men discover this in middle school after their first wet dream. Funny how it has become a stigma or shame tactic for men. We have something like 15 more times testosterone than women, so yeah, we’re gonna be a lot more horny. Once again, if it becomes a habit that consumes too much of your time, then back off. The guy with approach anxiety is not magically going to become more confident as a result of no fap. Mostly likely the opposite. Ever seen “Something about Marry.” Ben Stiller busts a nut before she shows up so he’s not walking around with a “loaded weapon”, lol.

If the fapping was so detrimental, why is there no campaigning for dildo/vibrator abstinence month for women? Men’s sexuality is the only one that is looked upon as bad. Anything that makes women get off their asses and into the gym and have an ounce of accountability is a problem.

 

[corrector]

I think it’s the other way around, for just those reasons. Earlier on you are in far more positions to capitalize on sex and so the effect of porn is diluted

If you have more positions then you can't afford to waste it. I mean if you have the real thing in abundance then why would you develop habits for the fake things? When I was young, I do not think porn or escort pics was helpful in any way and should have been avoided.

- when your experiences diminish and porn takes a greater piece of your mental capacity, is I am guessing when you become further accustomed and desensitized

You have less to lose in real life since the is less or not much opportunity esp. with the dating apps. Even if there wasn't porn it would be less motivation anyway today.

 

[Divorced w 3]

If you have more positions then you can't afford to waste it. I mean if you have the real thing in abundance then why would you develop habits for the fake things? When I was young, I do not think porn or escort pics was helpful in any way and should have been avoided.



You have less to lose in real life since the is less or not much opportunity esp. with the dating apps. Even if there wasn't porn it would be less motivation anyway today.

Point 1: testosterone

2: motivation / desensitization

 

[Divorced w 3]

If you have more positions then you can't afford to waste it. I mean if you have the real thing in abundance then why would you develop habits for the fake things? When I was young, I do not think porn or escort pics was helpful in any way and should have been avoided.



You have less to lose in real life since the is less or not much opportunity esp. with the dating apps. Even if there wasn't porn it would be less motivation anyway today.

My T levels just got tested. I am 38 mind yoi. Thought something was off. I just came in over range, 1040, which is a mid to high 20’s reading. The labcorp result had one of those little warnings. My LH is also above range. So what else could possibly be the verdict?

 

[Modern Man Advice]

You mean a mother teaching her daughter how to f**k a man while she herself joins in the action is not realistic? Man, I must be getting the wrong kind of sex and missing out. Hmmm

Also, NoFap has never been labeled a "cure". It is a practice. Do more research on the topic.

 

[corrector]

If the fapping was so detrimental, why is there no campaigning for dildo/vibrator abstinence month for women? Men’s sexuality is the only one that is looked upon as bad. Anything that makes women get off their asses and into the gym and have an ounce of accountability is a problem.

It's men that are promotion nofap rather than women as part of a branch of self-improvement. Guys on here promote this to find the motivation to do approaches and to make moves they would not otherwise made if they are satiated in their minds and had a release. It is supposed to provide focus to channel their energy. It is not fair, but red-pill advice is for guys to self-improve in order to up their tier or % status in the dating market because that makes cold-approach and OLD more effective the more you invest with yourself, whereas women don't really need to do anything.

So nofap that has nothing to do with feminism or women pushing no-fap. Frankly I don't think they care other than it keeps normies and sub-5s away from approaching them. If any of them do care, then it's more in the context of other issues, like sex-dolls, travelling to other countries, using prostitutes, fleshlights, etc.... but not your hands looking at some pics where nobody is being exploited.