Porn is not unrealistic and NoFap is not a cure.

[Divorced w 3]

If you have more positions then you can't afford to waste it. I mean if you have the real thing in abundance then why would you develop habits for the fake things? When I was young, I do not think porn or escort pics was helpful in any way and should have been avoided.



You have less to lose in real life since the is less or not much opportunity esp. with the dating apps. Even if there wasn't porn it would be less motivation anyway today.

My T levels just got tested. I am 38 mind yoi. Thought something was off. I just came in over range, 1040, which is a mid to high 20’s reading. The labcorp result had one of those little warnings. My LH is also above range. So what else could possibly be the verdict?

 

[Modern Man Advice]

You mean a mother teaching her daughter how to f**k a man while she herself joins in the action is not realistic? Man, I must be getting the wrong kind of sex and missing out. Hmmm

Also, NoFap has never been labeled a "cure". It is a practice. Do more research on the topic.

 

[corrector]

If the fapping was so detrimental, why is there no campaigning for dildo/vibrator abstinence month for women? Men’s sexuality is the only one that is looked upon as bad. Anything that makes women get off their asses and into the gym and have an ounce of accountability is a problem.

It's men that are promotion nofap rather than women as part of a branch of self-improvement. Guys on here promote this to find the motivation to do approaches and to make moves they would not otherwise made if they are satiated in their minds and had a release. It is supposed to provide focus to channel their energy. It is not fair, but red-pill advice is for guys to self-improve in order to up their tier or % status in the dating market because that makes cold-approach and OLD more effective the more you invest with yourself, whereas women don't really need to do anything.

So nofap that has nothing to do with feminism or women pushing no-fap. Frankly I don't think they care other than it keeps normies and sub-5s away from approaching them. If any of them do care, then it's more in the context of other issues, like sex-dolls, travelling to other countries, using prostitutes, fleshlights, etc.... but not your hands looking at some pics where nobody is being exploited.

 

[HaleyBaron]

You mean a mother teaching her daughter how to f**k a man while she herself joins in the action is not realistic? Man, I must be getting the wrong kind of sex and missing out. Hmmm

Also, NoFap has never been labeled a "cure". It is a practice. Do more research on the topic.

I was referring to the more basic parts of porn. However, scenarios in porn is just fantasy examples of the three points I made. For instance, the scenario you just point out, a man often may find both the mother and her daughter hot, and would like to have both of them even though he may be in a situation where he only has one of them. So even though it doesn't happen often, it has happened. Too many real life stories of men cheating on their mother's daughter, or the daughter's mother. It does happen, but I'm not saying it expected. Many scenarios are fantasy.

Another popular fantasy in porn is the woman in a robe naked beneath waiting for some kind of service or delivery man to show up, then ****ing the hot busty woman. In real life, most women that do this are not very good looking or average or bored housewives. This scenario actually does happen a lot. Anyone who has done delivery probably had stories of yourself or someone else coming to someone's house and they either answer naked or they are in one layer of cloth. And of course they have an entire reddit dedicated to flashing delivery guys. Yes, I found this out months ago and was just as surprised. Women are hilariously just as fantastical as men.

I exhibited NoFap as a practice that men take to cure. But that practice is not labeled NoFap. It's wrongly termed.

 

[derby1]

I tried two different approaches.

at the tail end of last month around the 20th I abstained from everything, I noticed my drive and passion go through the roof around the 28th, on the last day of the month I f*cked a decent looking chic, and my drive etc was still present on the 1st of Feb. I FELT GOOD

This drive and motivation increased further and yesterday morning I felt ready to take on the world, last night I fapped. This morning Im a shell of my former self, I cba to do much and I feel like a fog is over my life, all of my comebacks and charisma are lacking, usually they are instant and on tap.

Fapping destroys masculinity, turns me into a complete dull loser, I dont need science to confirm or deny my own observations.

 

[Jor-El]

I dont need science to confirm or deny my own observations.

Cant argue with that

 

[eli77]

Here we go again

 

[LTG71]

It's men that are promotion nofap rather than women as part of a branch of self-improvement. Guys on here promote this to find the motivation to do approaches and to make moves they would not otherwise made if they are satiated in their minds and had a release. It is supposed to provide focus to channel their energy. It is not fair, but red-pill advice is for guys to self-improve in order to up their tier or % status in the dating market because that makes cold-approach and OLD more effective the more you invest with yourself, whereas women don't really need to do anything.

So nofap that has nothing to do with feminism or women pushing no-fap. Frankly I don't think they care other than it keeps normies and sub-5s away from approaching them. If any of them do care, then it's more in the context of other issues, like sex-dolls, travelling to other countries, using prostitutes, fleshlights, etc.... but not your hands looking at some pics where nobody is being exploited.

The motivation is probably “blue balls” as your sex drive goes through the roof because of abstinence. Eventually you’ll wanna fvck anything with a pulse, lol. To each his own.

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[HaleyBaron]

Here’s a little something for the older crowd. Eventually Prostate health becomes a reality.

I would not put too much investment into ejaculation being good for prostate health. That science has been scandalous for a while. Most men get them once they're very old, a time when a lot of other health problems crop up, too. The medical field has been more lax on providing care to men as they have to women. If a doctor is telling you to masturbate more, they're not a doctor. They're a hustler.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Another day of abstinence and another good mood and solid set of hardware. Plans Friday to fvck, go out, and fvck when we get back. Still cannot think of another basis for the extra motivation

 

[LTG71]

I would not put too much investment into ejaculation being good for prostate health. That science has been scandalous for a while. Most men get them once they're very old, a time when a lot of other health problems crop up, too. The medical field has been more lax on providing care to men as they have to women. If a doctor is telling you to masturbate more, they're not a doctor. They're a hustler.

Doctors will most like prescribe medication for your Prostate rather than tell you to masturbate.

 

[corrector]

Doctors will most like prescribe medication for your Prostate rather than tell you to masturbate.

That is because they dont get kickbacks from big pharma. Just like vitamin D is known to prevent diabetes and build immunity but its cheap and not patented so you dont hear it.

 

[MatureDJ]

Why am i jacking off watching other people have sex instead of actually having sex !?! that can't be good for you sub consciously

This is why I like the good ole strip show. As for having a man in the picture, so long as it's only his manhood, I could picture that being my manhood, so it's OK.

 

[MatureDJ]

Doctors will most like prescribe medication for your Prostate rather than tell you to masturbate.

Actually, a urologist will suggest that you regularly ejaculate to clean out the pipes.

 

[stringpuller]

I repeatedly hear that porn provides unrealistic expectations to a man, so they aren't able to get hard or horny unless to the most model looking woman that is showcased around sites like pornhub and such. Both men and women feel that porn puts high expectations on them to perform and look their best. And that removing oneself from porn will effectively help them be motivated to get a woman and more motivated in life in general. I believe the issue here is that people are confusing one thing for the cause of the other. Rather than just seeing them as two separate issues that generally come from a different problem. In this case, motivation has nothing to do with porn. Without it, the person will still not have much if they don't have a goal in the first place.

So is porn unrealistic? It's no more unrealistic than football or other elite activities. It's an ideal, and striving for that ideal is not a bad thing. A man that can **** multiple women and go for long periods of time is mostly a stamina fitness thing. Becoming that man will not hurt anyone trying to match that image because it effectively makes you a better looking person and gives you more energy for other real life tasks. The big part of this ideal is women. They hate porn the most because it forces them to have to compete with these women. That means three things:

• Men like women who service them. Most western women hate this.
• Men like women who take care of their appearance and at least is not afraid of showing their female side. Too many women act like men these days.
• Men like women who are seductive. This applies to the first point, but it's more that a woman shows she wants the man to f*ck her, a trait you barely see these days. There are no feminine women walking up to a man and trying to get sex out of him simply to please him [no escorts or hookers apply].

So what is my thoughts on porn in general? Am I praising it? Not at all. A man who has many women has no need for porn. I see it mostly as a tool and as a free market activity upon our culture. It's meant to keep women in check because men give time, attention, and most of all money, toward media that displays sexy women. It's a necessity so that women have to compete in some matter. That is why you have all these women on twitch, onlyfans, and other places because they know that sex sells. And if they want that dough, they have to play up all parts of their womanhood. It's amazing watching all these infuriated feminists who hate having to be a woman and yet complaining that they cannot get that top dollar man they want. The contradiction is laughable from my pov, and it explains why men often go overseas to countries where women are still women.

NoFap is not a cure.

Most of the time, the man is doing something else that is contributing to his rise in productivity. Which is the point. NoFap was just an awareness that men are sitting at home doing lots of wasteful activities. Porn was just one of them. Bad diets, little to no exercise, no social life, probably stays on the computer 24/7. NoFap doesn't resolve this on its own. You could fix all of the bad things I just listed and you can still fap in peace. I've followed NoFap stories for a long time, and my conclusion is that men were confusing NoFap with Get Sh*t Done.

So no, porn is not unrealistic outside of steroid use and guys with elephant trunk d*cks [men always have the higher standards to match in porn where women have more leeway so this is just another avenue of women complaining about the easiest thing they can fix about themselves. Most women do not even need breast implants]. And NoFap is not a cure cause fapping is not the problem nor is porn.

I have a coworker his wife initiates watching porn to spice things up. Its a tool that some couples actually use to help them.
No fap and the narrative has been a giant grift that has made a bunch of people very rich. There is dark and light in everything

 

[corrector]

I have a coworker his wife initiates watching porn to spice things up. Its a tool that some couples actually use to help them.
No fap and the narrative has been a giant grift that has made a bunch of people very rich. There is dark and light in everything

My ex wife did the same thing. However I think the issue is with finding a woman rather than having one. People are supposed to find their motivation to approach and engage with women, etc.... The audience of no fap no porn are primarily singles. Therefore nobody really cares about what couples do.

 

[stringpuller]

My ex wife did the same thing. However I think the issue is with finding a woman rather than having one. People are supposed to find their motivation to approach and engage with women, etc.... The audience of no fap no porn are primarily singles. Therefore nobody really cares about what couples do.

Its about the lesson within the story.
Gotta get past the surface level. Nofappers and semen holders are coping for not getting azz. Its really that simple

 

[catsmeow2]

Its a tool that some couples actually use to help them.

Agree OR to "enhance" their sexual experience together especially in a LTR or marriage.

Some people believe if you need to watch porn to enhance or improve your sex life, something is wrong with your sex life.

Not true at all; your sex life can be HOT af, watching porn together (and actually experimenting together what you're watching) can bring your sex life to a level you never ever knew existed, especially the really hardcore stuff.

 

[Smok1nAce]

I think it should be the other way around. Most romantic and social opportunities (non transactional) with young and fertile.women with no kids or baggage happen below 25 wheras above 25 is more of an after market. You would really see the benefit, if any, of nofap when you are in your biological and social prime not afterwards.

Porn is a drug.

Unless your wack it 3 times a day for years or months on end, no fap is simply a psychologically effect of coming of an addiction.

When I was 18 I waked off and F my gf maybe once a day for years as you get older "pride" should kick in and any man who wants to sit around a wack it to porn is deeply in trouble. Its like alcohol the older you get the more it effects you.

If you dont have consistent real P after 30 the last thing you should be doing is watching porn. If your young dumb (25 and younger) and full of *** you fine watching it.


Its like a 18 year old doing cocaine vs a 35 year old. Their is a big differnece on so many levels.

 

[stringpuller]

Agree OR to "enhance" their sexual experience together especially in a LTR or marriage.

Some people believe if you need to watch porn to enhance or improve your sex life, something is wrong with your sex life.

Not true at all; your sex life can be HOT af, watching porn together (and actually experimenting together what you're watching) can bring your sex life to a level you never ever knew existed, especially the really hardcore stuff.

100% true. I have no problem with it. I don't think I ever had a girl in my life that didn't either watch it or make it together.