"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I am, as many people on SoSuave have previously been, considering using Anthony Ellis' stuff, in part as a result of Pooks recommendation.
I have done some searches and the impression I get is that the info is good for a beginner but can all be got free on the internet, well I've managed to get hold of the ebook without paying so thats not an issue but I'd appreciate any opinions on how useful the ebook is.
However I did see that there was some suggestion that Pook was paid to promote Anthony Ellis stuff, can anyone shed any light on that for me as it does seem a little dodgy?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I would like to say that I have Anthony Ellis book - the information in it is generally accurate and a very good read for those beginning weightlifting. Like you said, all of his information is public knowledge and you can easily find everything on the net if you look.

That being said, I would not recommend his weight training program for a beginner. I don't think that everything he tries to get you to do is necessary from a beginner standpoint. When you are just starting a program, basically anything you do will net you growth. You want to grow with the simplest program possible, only adding exercises when you need to because you are becoming more advanced. His program uses supersets, burnout sets, pyramiding, cycling, etc - all of these are unneccesary for a newbie. Yeah, they're great techniques if you are a vet and need to shock your body. But when just starting, doing a set of squats with 100 lbs will shock your body.

I actually keep his e-book on my desktop so that I can look at his dietary macros for each 'weight class.' His diet plan is the only thing I recommend you follow (not his supplement program - you don't need all the extra crap he tries to sell you). Get some whey/fish oil/multivitamin and you'll be more than set.

I would advise you to just start a simple program involving the compound exercises only - no need for the complicated stuff. Start off low and add weight every week.
 

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I've browsed it, and someone asked me about it as well, and I tweaked some things in there I didnt like. I dont have it in front of me so I cant say exactly what it was, but even the eating plan, there seemed to be a section that said... Mass meal, or gainer section, or something about gaining and meals and the meal started at 1700cal or 2000cal, or something close. I was like... Since when is that a mass eating plan?

Sorry I dont have it in front of me but I would have to take a closer look. All I know is for the person I helped I changed a few things.
 

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spesmilitis said:
can you pm me a link of the book?
I read it. I know it's intriguing to get a hold of, but it's a complete waste of time.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Omen said:
the meal started at 1700cal or 2000cal, or something close. I was like... Since when is that a mass eating plan?
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I dunno about you but to me a 1700 calorie meal is quite large.
 

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mrRuckus said:
I dunno about you but to me a 1700 calorie meal is quite large.
Missed typed that. Should have said all meals combined or total caloric intake for the day. My fault.
 

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He advocates bw in lbs x 20. Then I think it was 40-30-30. Carbs, Protein, Fat.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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He has different diet plans for different body weights - as your weight increases, you add more calories.

His meal plans do start at 1800 calories, if you weigh <100 lbs. 18-20x bw is what he recommends. Come on man, if somebody that weighs 90 lbs eats 3k calories a day, they're going to be getting fat, fast, and taking in a lot of unnecessary food.

So if you weight 160 (still skinny) you'd be consuming 3000 calories a day.

Personally, I think his diet section is the best part of the book (though you can definitely make food substitutions from the list he has laid out).

Edit - BTW, 6-heads is right. Starting Strength >> Ellis, by a longshot. (But SS also doesn't have a diet plan).
 

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SS's diet plan is to drink a gallon of milk a day along with a pound of beef. haha.


Wasn't this book geared towards very very skinny guys?
 

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The_Opera said:
He has different diet plans for different body weights - as your weight increases, you add more calories.

His meal plans do start at 1800 calories, if you weigh <100 lbs. 18-20x bw is what he recommends. Come on man, if somebody that weighs 90 lbs eats 3k calories a day, they're going to be getting fat, fast, and taking in a lot of unnecessary food.

So if you weight 160 (still skinny) you'd be consuming 3000 calories a day.

Personally, I think his diet section is the best part of the book (though you can definitely make food substitutions from the list he has laid out).

Edit - BTW, 6-heads is right. Starting Strength >> Ellis, by a longshot. (But SS also doesn't have a diet plan).

Not true for everyone, and almost not true period. I eat over 3,000cal a day, I am NOT 160lbs and I have less fat on me than most people in the gym. In fact, close to 4,000cal to gain.

I'll tell you the problem... The problem is that The 100lb guys only eat 1800cal a day. That's barely maintenance really. Not too far off. Instead of telling them to eat 1800cal (which most people would laugh at) I would add almost double that. THIS is why skinny people dont gain. They wont gain all fat if they know how to do it. And since they are active its VERY unlikely they will. If they see more than average by some chance, lower it. 1800cal? I would lose weight.
 

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mrRuckus said:
SS's diet plan is to drink a gallon of milk a day along with a pound of beef. haha.


Wasn't this book geared towards very very skinny guys?

now that'll mass you up
 

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Omen said:
I am NOT 160lbs and I have less fat on me than most people in the gym.
Haha, hardly a feat.

Not a knock on you. But them.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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mrRuckus said:
Haha, hardly a feat.

Not a knock on you. But them.
I'm just a lean guy and its muscle, not skin and bones. In fact I dont see too many people as ripped as I am. Sure its only a select few who can really pull it off, but I just thought i'd see more of them. Not ****y, but when I go to the gym, I feel good cause no one looks as good as I do. :rock:

Hey, someone has to do it right?
 
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