I_Only_Live_Once
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Just curious to see what people prefer.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Poll: what life would you choose
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Neither. Marriage has this uncanny ability to turn the person you love into the person you hate. And when that happens, the legal ramifications can be a bytch. The only true difference between marriage and a life long live-in partner is the legally bound part. Do we really need to be legally bound to show our love?
And this is a really weird poll.
And this is a really weird poll.
Joe The Homophobe
Master Don Juan
Not an easy question. Women deteriorate in looks everyday. After 15-20 years of marriage your hb 8.5 will look like a 6.5 or or less. An HB 7 will look worse than a 6. Even if they take care of themselves they won't look nothing like they did the time you married them. Your poll is not realistic because a woman's looks rating can goes down as time passes by so we really can't vote on it considering all these factors. Seriously how many 40 year olds are 7 or above? not many. Maybe if your poll had a time limit like who would you marry of these HB's for 10 years?
but to answer your poll, I would definitely marry a hot girl and take less money, rather than an average ok looking girl and more money. Women deteriorate in looks so the better one you get, the better the chances she will look ok as she gets older.
but to answer your poll, I would definitely marry a hot girl and take less money, rather than an average ok looking girl and more money. Women deteriorate in looks so the better one you get, the better the chances she will look ok as she gets older.
I_Only_Live_Once
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Joe: I see what you're saying...hmm...I guess my poll should be clarified to mean that she is an 8.5 (or 7) right now and let nature take its course. When we meet girls, we could apply a simple formula to determine the salvage value:
(Her Looks Now minus Her Looks at the end of estimated useful life) divided by (# of years of useful life)
That would give us the rate of annual depretiation for us to have a better idea of what we're dealing with.
JonJack: Yeah I don't know why people feel the need to be legally binded together. For the poll, you can replace "marriage" with "life-long partner". As for the poll itself, I can understand it being strange especially since I didn't give much context to it. It's just that one day I was thinking what my priorities are and what makes me happy. And I just thought which would make me happier, to focus my time on school and money, or girls.
(Her Looks Now minus Her Looks at the end of estimated useful life) divided by (# of years of useful life)
That would give us the rate of annual depretiation for us to have a better idea of what we're dealing with.
JonJack: Yeah I don't know why people feel the need to be legally binded together. For the poll, you can replace "marriage" with "life-long partner". As for the poll itself, I can understand it being strange especially since I didn't give much context to it. It's just that one day I was thinking what my priorities are and what makes me happy. And I just thought which would make me happier, to focus my time on school and money, or girls.
Personally, being happily together with a girl, it doesn't matter much how good she looks as long as she's a 6.5 and up. Pulling in a good amount of money to me is more satisfying. If I had to choose one over the other, I would choose money. Only because I am capable of living my life without having a LTR and because there are a lot of other things I would like to enjoy in my life, which of course requires a lot of money.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
al77
Master Don Juan
Dude, why do you care about 7 or 8.5??? If you both have good "chemistry" why do you need sombody very good looking??
To brag about?
So I'd go for "chemistry", and double income sure would not hurt if there is "chemistry" with that HB7.
To brag about?
So I'd go for "chemistry", and double income sure would not hurt if there is "chemistry" with that HB7.
Muppet
Don Juan
I would be happy living in a trailer with the one I love, if she loved me back as much. Money is great and all but as long as I have that special someone and can live decently I will be happy.
I_Only_Live_Once
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al77: I wish I could be more noble and say that looks don't matter, but to me they do. I'd much rather be with a very attractive girl than a marginally attractive girl (if their personalities are similar). I'm not saying I'm proud of this preference, but I'd be a liar if I told you I didn't care about looks.
For example, although this website I think is mostly about bettering oneself, a lot of it is targeted at getting an attractive girl. I'm sure most of us can get laid or get into a LTR with a girl who's not that attractive, because they don't get as much attention from guys so you don't need to have any game. But when dealing with more attractive girls, they have more options, thus we must better ourselves versus the competition. We must know how to act as a man and build attraction.
For example, although this website I think is mostly about bettering oneself, a lot of it is targeted at getting an attractive girl. I'm sure most of us can get laid or get into a LTR with a girl who's not that attractive, because they don't get as much attention from guys so you don't need to have any game. But when dealing with more attractive girls, they have more options, thus we must better ourselves versus the competition. We must know how to act as a man and build attraction.
Mister Big
Don Juan
This was an excellent question. I had no idea what the response % would be. I picked the HB8.5, but regretted it as soon as I voted. It seems that money makes the world go round.
Is happiness achieved by doubling your salary and marrying a HB8.5? Who knows? How about doubling your salary, not marrying anyone, and having 2-3 HB8.5s. That's my approach at the moment as an aspiring DJ.
Is happiness achieved by doubling your salary and marrying a HB8.5? Who knows? How about doubling your salary, not marrying anyone, and having 2-3 HB8.5s. That's my approach at the moment as an aspiring DJ.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Beauty fades away, and then all u are left with is the personality.. and money
Looks will fade away with time, So i would go with the 2nd option.. and afterall, an HB7 is still hot, and if u love her, u dont need her to be miss world
Laterz...
Looks will fade away with time, So i would go with the 2nd option.. and afterall, an HB7 is still hot, and if u love her, u dont need her to be miss world
Laterz...
NewMan
Master Don Juan
I'd take the money, then dump that b#tch.
At this point in my life I would have to take money.
Love is a fleeting feeling. And a guy that puts all his stock into a woman is really confused.
Sure, its nice to have a really hot girl, but if that means you are to make less money no thanks.
Also, if you take the other road, and go for the less hotter girl and the money, you are selling yourself short. Money will help you meet, attract, and keep hot girls. Sucks to be true, but it is.
Everyone needs to focus on themselves first, before they can focus on others. I'm not a selfish person, but to truly give to others you first need to have things to offer.
Right now, money is more important in my life. I dont like to work exactly, but money is something, that while it cant buy love, can sure as hell help in many other areas besides love.
Love, attraction, its all fleeting, unpredictable, etc. Marriage doesnt insure anything. It only means if you go your seperate ways you will owe money.
Right now, and this may all change, I wouldnt mind finding a life-long partner, say when I'm 33 or older. Marriage I dont think is the answer. Why does a piece of paper have to legitamize anything. I want someone that I am with but not for many years, and not til I have lived and learned a lot more.
I know this isnt what the post is about. But I think a lot of people need to stop thinking a woman in your life makes up for everything and validates you.
Right now, I get bored with girls. So, maybe thats what is speaking for me. But I see a lot of guys I know making mistakes with them. Sucks for them.
You have to be happy with yourself, and alone before you can be happy with anything, and anyone else.
Love is a fleeting feeling. And a guy that puts all his stock into a woman is really confused.
Sure, its nice to have a really hot girl, but if that means you are to make less money no thanks.
Also, if you take the other road, and go for the less hotter girl and the money, you are selling yourself short. Money will help you meet, attract, and keep hot girls. Sucks to be true, but it is.
Everyone needs to focus on themselves first, before they can focus on others. I'm not a selfish person, but to truly give to others you first need to have things to offer.
Right now, money is more important in my life. I dont like to work exactly, but money is something, that while it cant buy love, can sure as hell help in many other areas besides love.
Love, attraction, its all fleeting, unpredictable, etc. Marriage doesnt insure anything. It only means if you go your seperate ways you will owe money.
Right now, and this may all change, I wouldnt mind finding a life-long partner, say when I'm 33 or older. Marriage I dont think is the answer. Why does a piece of paper have to legitamize anything. I want someone that I am with but not for many years, and not til I have lived and learned a lot more.
I know this isnt what the post is about. But I think a lot of people need to stop thinking a woman in your life makes up for everything and validates you.
Right now, I get bored with girls. So, maybe thats what is speaking for me. But I see a lot of guys I know making mistakes with them. Sucks for them.
You have to be happy with yourself, and alone before you can be happy with anything, and anyone else.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
belividere
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I guess NWA was right when they said that,
"Life aint nothing but b1tches and $$$"
"Life aint nothing but b1tches and $$$"
Joe The Homophobe
Master Don Juan
I think you guys got it wrong. The poll assumes that you love the girl and you are 'in love,' so what do you take? hb 8.5 or hb 7, you love both the same, but hb 7 has more money.
Marriage is something that can last a long time so I don't care about the money, give me hb 8.5
Marriage is something that can last a long time so I don't care about the money, give me hb 8.5
Deep Dark Steel
Don Juan
I believe you are confusing infatuation with love....
No, not at all. Love is a fleeting feeling.
Why is the divorce rate slightly higher than 50 percent in the US?
Care to guess about how many love-less marriages that still exist, because those married dont want to split because of Money, kids, and religious convictions? Its astounding.
Those with profound insights on life, know not to get married.
If that is just 'infatuation' than i'd say marriages as they are now in the US are long-term infatuations.
If its 'love' than why would you rather have a hotter girl and less money. If you were in 'love' you wouldnt care her attractivness. Money is something that is important.
Why is the divorce rate slightly higher than 50 percent in the US?
Care to guess about how many love-less marriages that still exist, because those married dont want to split because of Money, kids, and religious convictions? Its astounding.
Those with profound insights on life, know not to get married.
If that is just 'infatuation' than i'd say marriages as they are now in the US are long-term infatuations.
If its 'love' than why would you rather have a hotter girl and less money. If you were in 'love' you wouldnt care her attractivness. Money is something that is important.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.