I_Only_Live_Once
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Just curious to see what people prefer.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Poll: what life would you choose
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Neither. Marriage has this uncanny ability to turn the person you love into the person you hate. And when that happens, the legal ramifications can be a bytch. The only true difference between marriage and a life long live-in partner is the legally bound part. Do we really need to be legally bound to show our love?
And this is a really weird poll.
And this is a really weird poll.
Joe The Homophobe
Master Don Juan
Not an easy question. Women deteriorate in looks everyday. After 15-20 years of marriage your hb 8.5 will look like a 6.5 or or less. An HB 7 will look worse than a 6. Even if they take care of themselves they won't look nothing like they did the time you married them. Your poll is not realistic because a woman's looks rating can goes down as time passes by so we really can't vote on it considering all these factors. Seriously how many 40 year olds are 7 or above? not many. Maybe if your poll had a time limit like who would you marry of these HB's for 10 years?
but to answer your poll, I would definitely marry a hot girl and take less money, rather than an average ok looking girl and more money. Women deteriorate in looks so the better one you get, the better the chances she will look ok as she gets older.
but to answer your poll, I would definitely marry a hot girl and take less money, rather than an average ok looking girl and more money. Women deteriorate in looks so the better one you get, the better the chances she will look ok as she gets older.
I_Only_Live_Once
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Joe: I see what you're saying...hmm...I guess my poll should be clarified to mean that she is an 8.5 (or 7) right now and let nature take its course. When we meet girls, we could apply a simple formula to determine the salvage value:
(Her Looks Now minus Her Looks at the end of estimated useful life) divided by (# of years of useful life)
That would give us the rate of annual depretiation for us to have a better idea of what we're dealing with.
JonJack: Yeah I don't know why people feel the need to be legally binded together. For the poll, you can replace "marriage" with "life-long partner". As for the poll itself, I can understand it being strange especially since I didn't give much context to it. It's just that one day I was thinking what my priorities are and what makes me happy. And I just thought which would make me happier, to focus my time on school and money, or girls.
(Her Looks Now minus Her Looks at the end of estimated useful life) divided by (# of years of useful life)
That would give us the rate of annual depretiation for us to have a better idea of what we're dealing with.
JonJack: Yeah I don't know why people feel the need to be legally binded together. For the poll, you can replace "marriage" with "life-long partner". As for the poll itself, I can understand it being strange especially since I didn't give much context to it. It's just that one day I was thinking what my priorities are and what makes me happy. And I just thought which would make me happier, to focus my time on school and money, or girls.
Personally, being happily together with a girl, it doesn't matter much how good she looks as long as she's a 6.5 and up. Pulling in a good amount of money to me is more satisfying. If I had to choose one over the other, I would choose money. Only because I am capable of living my life without having a LTR and because there are a lot of other things I would like to enjoy in my life, which of course requires a lot of money.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
al77
Master Don Juan
Dude, why do you care about 7 or 8.5??? If you both have good "chemistry" why do you need sombody very good looking??
To brag about?
So I'd go for "chemistry", and double income sure would not hurt if there is "chemistry" with that HB7.
To brag about?
So I'd go for "chemistry", and double income sure would not hurt if there is "chemistry" with that HB7.
Muppet
Don Juan
I would be happy living in a trailer with the one I love, if she loved me back as much. Money is great and all but as long as I have that special someone and can live decently I will be happy.
I_Only_Live_Once
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al77: I wish I could be more noble and say that looks don't matter, but to me they do. I'd much rather be with a very attractive girl than a marginally attractive girl (if their personalities are similar). I'm not saying I'm proud of this preference, but I'd be a liar if I told you I didn't care about looks.
For example, although this website I think is mostly about bettering oneself, a lot of it is targeted at getting an attractive girl. I'm sure most of us can get laid or get into a LTR with a girl who's not that attractive, because they don't get as much attention from guys so you don't need to have any game. But when dealing with more attractive girls, they have more options, thus we must better ourselves versus the competition. We must know how to act as a man and build attraction.
For example, although this website I think is mostly about bettering oneself, a lot of it is targeted at getting an attractive girl. I'm sure most of us can get laid or get into a LTR with a girl who's not that attractive, because they don't get as much attention from guys so you don't need to have any game. But when dealing with more attractive girls, they have more options, thus we must better ourselves versus the competition. We must know how to act as a man and build attraction.
Mister Big
Don Juan
This was an excellent question. I had no idea what the response % would be. I picked the HB8.5, but regretted it as soon as I voted. It seems that money makes the world go round.
Is happiness achieved by doubling your salary and marrying a HB8.5? Who knows? How about doubling your salary, not marrying anyone, and having 2-3 HB8.5s. That's my approach at the moment as an aspiring DJ.
Is happiness achieved by doubling your salary and marrying a HB8.5? Who knows? How about doubling your salary, not marrying anyone, and having 2-3 HB8.5s. That's my approach at the moment as an aspiring DJ.
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Beauty fades away, and then all u are left with is the personality.. and money
Looks will fade away with time, So i would go with the 2nd option.. and afterall, an HB7 is still hot, and if u love her, u dont need her to be miss world
Laterz...
Looks will fade away with time, So i would go with the 2nd option.. and afterall, an HB7 is still hot, and if u love her, u dont need her to be miss world
Laterz...
NewMan
Master Don Juan
I'd take the money, then dump that b#tch.
At this point in my life I would have to take money.
Love is a fleeting feeling. And a guy that puts all his stock into a woman is really confused.
Sure, its nice to have a really hot girl, but if that means you are to make less money no thanks.
Also, if you take the other road, and go for the less hotter girl and the money, you are selling yourself short. Money will help you meet, attract, and keep hot girls. Sucks to be true, but it is.
Everyone needs to focus on themselves first, before they can focus on others. I'm not a selfish person, but to truly give to others you first need to have things to offer.
Right now, money is more important in my life. I dont like to work exactly, but money is something, that while it cant buy love, can sure as hell help in many other areas besides love.
Love, attraction, its all fleeting, unpredictable, etc. Marriage doesnt insure anything. It only means if you go your seperate ways you will owe money.
Right now, and this may all change, I wouldnt mind finding a life-long partner, say when I'm 33 or older. Marriage I dont think is the answer. Why does a piece of paper have to legitamize anything. I want someone that I am with but not for many years, and not til I have lived and learned a lot more.
I know this isnt what the post is about. But I think a lot of people need to stop thinking a woman in your life makes up for everything and validates you.
Right now, I get bored with girls. So, maybe thats what is speaking for me. But I see a lot of guys I know making mistakes with them. Sucks for them.
You have to be happy with yourself, and alone before you can be happy with anything, and anyone else.
Love is a fleeting feeling. And a guy that puts all his stock into a woman is really confused.
Sure, its nice to have a really hot girl, but if that means you are to make less money no thanks.
Also, if you take the other road, and go for the less hotter girl and the money, you are selling yourself short. Money will help you meet, attract, and keep hot girls. Sucks to be true, but it is.
Everyone needs to focus on themselves first, before they can focus on others. I'm not a selfish person, but to truly give to others you first need to have things to offer.
Right now, money is more important in my life. I dont like to work exactly, but money is something, that while it cant buy love, can sure as hell help in many other areas besides love.
Love, attraction, its all fleeting, unpredictable, etc. Marriage doesnt insure anything. It only means if you go your seperate ways you will owe money.
Right now, and this may all change, I wouldnt mind finding a life-long partner, say when I'm 33 or older. Marriage I dont think is the answer. Why does a piece of paper have to legitamize anything. I want someone that I am with but not for many years, and not til I have lived and learned a lot more.
I know this isnt what the post is about. But I think a lot of people need to stop thinking a woman in your life makes up for everything and validates you.
Right now, I get bored with girls. So, maybe thats what is speaking for me. But I see a lot of guys I know making mistakes with them. Sucks for them.
You have to be happy with yourself, and alone before you can be happy with anything, and anyone else.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
belividere
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I guess NWA was right when they said that,
"Life aint nothing but b1tches and $$$"
"Life aint nothing but b1tches and $$$"
Joe The Homophobe
Master Don Juan
I think you guys got it wrong. The poll assumes that you love the girl and you are 'in love,' so what do you take? hb 8.5 or hb 7, you love both the same, but hb 7 has more money.
Marriage is something that can last a long time so I don't care about the money, give me hb 8.5
Marriage is something that can last a long time so I don't care about the money, give me hb 8.5
Deep Dark Steel
Don Juan
I believe you are confusing infatuation with love....
No, not at all. Love is a fleeting feeling.
Why is the divorce rate slightly higher than 50 percent in the US?
Care to guess about how many love-less marriages that still exist, because those married dont want to split because of Money, kids, and religious convictions? Its astounding.
Those with profound insights on life, know not to get married.
If that is just 'infatuation' than i'd say marriages as they are now in the US are long-term infatuations.
If its 'love' than why would you rather have a hotter girl and less money. If you were in 'love' you wouldnt care her attractivness. Money is something that is important.
Why is the divorce rate slightly higher than 50 percent in the US?
Care to guess about how many love-less marriages that still exist, because those married dont want to split because of Money, kids, and religious convictions? Its astounding.
Those with profound insights on life, know not to get married.
If that is just 'infatuation' than i'd say marriages as they are now in the US are long-term infatuations.
If its 'love' than why would you rather have a hotter girl and less money. If you were in 'love' you wouldnt care her attractivness. Money is something that is important.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.