"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Poker players - Phil Ivey displays smarts AND balls in this poker hand

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Such an underappreciated and misunderstood game. Phil Ivey is amazing at bluffing.
 

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sageproduct said:
Such an underappreciated and misunderstood game. Phil Ivey is amazing at bluffing.
Yes, not only does Ivey have the balls to bluff, he has knowlege of both the tendencies of the opposing player, and the cards out on the table, so he has *wisdom and sagacity* so that he knows the bluff will work.
 

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First of all that was a dumb hand that Jackson played and re raise with.

Second, he gave out some tells that Ivey obviously saw before he went all in.


Moments like that win you tournaments.
 

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EA Gold said:
First of all that was a dumb hand that Jackson played and re raise with.

Second, he gave out some tells that Ivey obviously saw before he went all in.


Moments like that win you tournaments.
Jacksons mistake was not pushing his stack when he reraised a second time. It gave Phil the chance to move him off the pot.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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DJDanny said:
Jacksons mistake was not pushing his stack when he reraised a second time. It gave Phil the chance to move him off the pot.
Agreed, but this comes down to the size of your balls. Do you have the balls to go all-in with your entire stack with air?
 

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EA Gold said:
First of all that was a dumb hand that Jackson played and re raise with.

Second, he gave out some tells that Ivey obviously saw before he went all in.


Moments like that win you tournaments.
I don't think it was a dumb hand that Jackson played. He did have 5 6 offsuit, but heads-up play is way different and almost anything goes. Yes, I'm sure PHIL IVEY was able to pick up on tells that told him Jackson had nothing, tells that most people wouldn't pick up on. I'd bet that the tells had much more to do with betting patterns and tendencies than anything physical.

It would have been tough for Jackson to go all-in from a 4 to 1 chip disadvantage. I think he was really trying to sell value betting with the Jacks, and somehow Phil Ivey saw through it.
 

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You can feel the disappointment from Jackson when Ivey Reraised him, and after he did you could see Jackson was thinking alot with his body language.

Ivey obviously saw this but even with that it takes alot of guts to go all in with nothing. Ivey probably put him on a pair of 7's.

Ivey even bluffed a guy to fold his set during wsop, its kinda funny though. Stuff like this happens when you think too much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfqfINisvs
 

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All the bluffing and "skill" in the world is not going to change the fact that is a probability game and somebody will see right through your crap to leave you on the duster.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Nygard said:
All the bluffing and "skill" in the world is not going to change the fact that is a probability game and somebody will see right through your crap to leave you on the duster.
Obviously you've never played the game. Bluffing is way more than betting and betting until your opponent folds. That might work against a bad, tight player. Phil Ivey's skill in bluffing is that he can convince the best players in the world that he has a certain hand through various betting behaviors.
 

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Nygard said:
All the bluffing and "skill" in the world is not going to change the fact that is a probability game and somebody will see right through your crap to leave you on the duster.
Based on that comment you just made, I welcome you to join our poker game, cash game style.

Bring me one more Nygard please!
 

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I know enough of the game to know it's a waste of time.ESPN can put these guys in the highest pedestal all day long and it's still a waste.
 

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sageproduct said:
I don't think it was a dumb hand that Jackson played. He did have 5 6 offsuit, but heads-up play is way different and almost anything goes. Yes, I'm sure PHIL IVEY was able to pick up on tells that told him Jackson had nothing, tells that most people wouldn't pick up on. I'd bet that the tells had much more to do with betting patterns and tendencies than anything physical.

It would have been tough for Jackson to go all-in from a 4 to 1 chip disadvantage. I think he was really trying to sell value betting with the Jacks, and somehow Phil Ivey saw through it.

Sharpest reply thus far to this thread. I give Phil Ivey all the credit in the world for reading his opponent... but lets not forget he had a substantial chip advantage where he has leeway to attempt to lean on his opponent with bets and raises...
 
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