"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I've been dating this girl for 2 months now. All seems well and fun. However, some intresting comments came up recently and I really don't understand the meaning or truth. Any advice/thoughts would be appreciated.

Her:Things are moving fast and I dont know what to take of it.
Me: How are things moving fast?
Her: Nevermind, things are great. It's just me I guess.
Me: Should I take what you said as a bad thing?
Her: No, I hope not.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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******** to English translation:

Her:Things are moving fast and I dont know what to take of it.

I'm spending more time with you than I'm able to justify my desire to go out with other guys, and if I don't toss out this disclaimer now I wont have an OUT later on should I meet up with a better prospect.


Me: How are things moving fast?

Oh sh!t he's not getting it, backpedal, back pedal,...

Her: Nevermind, things are great. It's just me I guess.
He's not taking the hint, I'd better be self-depreciating and try another approach.

Me: Should I take what you said as a bad thing?

Her: No, I hope not.
yes, well,..only if that cute guy I met at the club last night calls me back
 

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How many times have you slept together and when was the first time?
 

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Krang! said:
How many times have you slept together and when was the first time?
3 Times. First time was roughly 3 weeks after meeting her.
 

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Bronxtal112 said:
3 Times. First time was roughly 3 weeks after meeting her.
wow - first time 3 weeks into it and then only twice more in two months and she thinks things are moving to fast? That's a load of BS - well it's always BS when women say things are moving to fast...
I think Rollo is right on target - she is creating an OUT. Have you been the attention giver, the one initiating dates and calling first afterwards and so on? Maybe she has become to certain of your attention already and that makes her think in directions like "do I really want to get more engaged with this guy?" instead of "what should I do next to keep him liking me?". If this is the case perhaps distance yourself a little?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Yea man, this isn't good.

You should have agreed to the moving too fast part and then said that you had been feeling the same for a while too and perhaps you shouldn't see each other for a while and start dating other people.

If she liked you then she would contact you to meet up after realising her mistake. If she didn't then you exited gracefully.

Tell us how this goes! It would be interesting for the group.
 

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Funny.

I'm always the one to say "I think we are going to fast." first. I make sure to throw it out about the 3rd date.

It's a power thing. If I say it, she wonders what's going on with ME. "Why is this too fast? Is he getting away? Am I doing something that's putting him off? Is there another woman?"

You gotta beat them to the punch with that little bomb.

If you don't manage to use that before they do, here's how you reply:

Her: "Things are moving fast and I don't know what to make of it."
You: "Yeah, we do get along pretty well together, huh? It freaked me out at first too, but now I'm just enjoying it."

or

You: "I know! You could make a pinata out of it and try to hit it with a stick!"
 

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Vulpine said:
Funny.

I'm always the one to say "I think we are going to fast." first. I make sure to throw it out about the 3rd date.
Hahaha. I did the same with my current girlfriend. We were talking (4 or 5 days after we kissed, etc.) and she suggested some things (we were not even "together" as in a committed relationship, in fact, I was not sure of what I wanted with her) and I said, "Don't you think we are going to fast?" (note: I typically never use the "yes" and "no" questions, but I intentionally did this time as to study her reaction)...LOL. It was a beauty.

I admit...looking back, when I first met her...I "played" things to 100% perfection. And she developed a very strong attraction for me.
 

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Is this the same broad you were describing in your Mixed Signals thread?
 

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Busted...
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Is this the same broad you were describing in your Mixed Signals thread?
Nah, I am currently dating 2 girls right now. Both of which have been driving me insane
 

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Bronxtal112 said:
Nah, I am currently dating 2 girls right now. Both of which have been driving me insane
Geez, I have to call bullsh1t on this one...It's the internet, man, we're all anonymous. You have to tell the truth before anyone can actually help you. Just take RT's advice and be done with it...
 

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Bronxtal112 said:
Nah, I am currently dating 2 girls right now. Both of which have been driving me insane
If you are going to be wasting our times by LYING...that's fine. But like somebody said above...it is the Internet and NOBODY knows you.

So...for better advice, be honest.
 
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