"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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phoenix_met

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Hi guysI posted this thread in highschool forum and i got vary good advices
I think you guys can help me too

I'm sorry if I write incorrect.

Two month earlier I met a pretty girl who is the friend of my friend's girlfriend. First she called me and we talked for a few minutes and next day we met each other but not alone my friend and her friend came with us too .we had good time together ,I think I established a new relationship and at the end I said:" call me" and she replied :" ok "
After few days I didn't receive a call but in the afternoon I see her on-line in the messenger so I tried to talk to her after few minutes she write this: "I don't want to be with you." And I said:" ok, no problem. ".I don't think I have problem because my body is in good shape and I'm handsome enough (lol) .I ask my friend Sam why she don't want to be with me and he said she thinks you are too old. (I'm 17 but I'm look like 20 ).after that I forgot her until today. we (me and sam) went to a sport complex and he had a date with his girlfriend(Ana) .when we walked through the desks in the caffeteria I saw her sitting beside Ana so I looked into her eyes and say high with high confidence and a great bodylanguage.First she freezed then she say hi .Sam sat beside them and I went and sat on another desk.I thought she become nervous if I sat beside them .after few minutes they stand up and came and sat beside me.3 other girls came with them too and we talked but not too much. She is too shy.I think she gave me some signs that she want me but she is shy and couldn't do anything .
I think I like her and want to date with her.I have a chance to meet her next week and I hope I can do something .

What should I exactly do?How should I break the ice ?How should I talked to her?I want some topics for conversation?and ……

Please give me a complete plan to win.

THANKS A LOT
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Phyzzle

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You already tried to break the ice and she said:

"I don't want to be with you."

It doesn't get much more clear than that.
 

blinkwatt

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phoenix_met said:
Please give me a complete plan to win.
Live life,don't be afraid to learn on your own.

I would tread lightly becuause of the "I don't want to be with you" comment. None-the-less you said you saw signals,what were they?
 
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