"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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PLEASE help me. Read and respond if you have any suggestions.

thewarrior

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I'm tired of being alone. I would love to date multiple girls and have multiple **** buddies but I really just want a girlfriend. I never had a girlfriend and want to experience being in a relationship. I'm HAPPY with every other part of my life but being loved and loving someone is missing.

My job doesn't put me in contact with women that are available or in my age group, and I'm not in school.

I go to malls and other public venues but I don't see many opportunities to chat with a girl long enough for me to get her number. What's the point of chatting with a girl and never seeing her again? I don't have approach anxiety, but I do like to approach in situations where I have a chance at being successful. For example, I won't approach a girl who's walking fast and on the phone.

I'm looking for tips on approaching women during the day.

And I'm also looking for tips on clubs and/or bars. I drink but not very much. Everytime I picture a club, I imagine a long line and the bouncer blocking you from entering. All my club knowledge comes from movies and the very idea frightens me.

How should I dress?
How much does it cost just to enter the club?
When's the best time to go?
How close should I dance to girls on the dance floor?

Stuff like that.

Like I said, I don't have approach anxiety and I'm pretty good at keeping a conversation flowing. I just have a hard time deciding if a girl during the day is approachable and I'm clueless about clubs.

Thanks!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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pLaYtHiNg

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Well, I have a few questions for you, because what kind of girl you're looking for depends heavily on where you might find her. For instance if you want a girl that takes care of herself, going to parks, jogging trails, gyms, etc. would be good places to look. If you want an animal lover/veg-head types, (like me) dog parks, stables and maybe zoos would be a good place to work.

If you want a party girl, the best place is to look in the bar. So, really, what kind of girl are you looking for? Also, the internet is a great resource, and I don't mean dating sites, but to look for places to meet women. Personally I met the man I love in a dog park. Now I'm trying to figure out how to get beyond friendship and into a relationship. (That's pretty much why I'm here, because I think men would have more tangible advice to offer me).

Good luck in your quest!

 

Mavrick

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This is some sappy sh!t right here. "love and be loved"? Is that an actual need for you?

Here's what you should do. Stop asking these questions on a damn forum about how to dress, cover charges to clubs, and all that crap. Just go out, grab a bar stool, and observe. You don't have to observe forever, but watch the guys that are successful and have a lot of friends. Watch how those guys acts, look at how they're dressed, and maybe even get to know some successful guys. Always find guys that are better than you because if you find guys worse off than you, they'll only bring you down to their level. You have to get out there and do it. That's the only way to actually learn. You can come here and read some great sh!t, and I encourage you to, but none of it will really make sense until you're out there and applying it in actual situations.
 

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Mavrick said:
This is some sappy sh!t right here. "love and be loved"? Is that an actual need for you?

Here's what you should do. Stop asking these questions on a damn forum about how to dress, cover charges to clubs, and all that crap. Just go out, grab a bar stool, and observe. You don't have to observe forever, but watch the guys that are successful and have a lot of friends. Watch how those guys acts, look at how they're dressed, and maybe even get to know some successful guys. Always find guys that are better than you because if you find guys worse off than you, they'll only bring you down to their level. You have to get out there and do it. That's the only way to actually learn. You can come here and read some great sh!t, and I encourage you to, but none of it will really make sense until you're out there and applying it in actual situations.
These forums are only good for older posts. It seems like most of my threads are ignored. I'm thinking about doing what you said, observe and learn.
 

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pLaYtHiNg said:
Well, I have a few questions for you, because what kind of girl you're looking for depends heavily on where you might find her. For instance if you want a girl that takes care of herself, going to parks, jogging trails, gyms, etc. would be good places to look. If you want an animal lover/veg-head types, (like me) dog parks, stables and maybe zoos would be a good place to work.

If you want a party girl, the best place is to look in the bar. So, really, what kind of girl are you looking for? Also, the internet is a great resource, and I don't mean dating sites, but to look for places to meet women. Personally I met the man I love in a dog park. Now I'm trying to figure out how to get beyond friendship and into a relationship. (That's pretty much why I'm here, because I think men would have more tangible advice to offer me).

Good luck in your quest!


I would like a girl that takes care of herself, but also like to party (sometimes). I think Craigslist is a good place, I can look up volunteer work and stuff like that.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I.A.F.Y.B.

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A girlfriend can bring joy and pain. I'm more of a LTR guy and I know how it is. If you wanna know what its like just go out and experience it.
 
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I think what mavrick said is good advice. The best way to learn how to swim is to jump in the pond. That is the quickest and most effective way for you to adapt to your environment. 99% of the posts on this website are garbage, they cant offer the type of help that experience can. You just need the right attitude, and to be honest I think yours is a little out of whack. In my experience, the best way to have fun while your out is have, as one of my friends put it; "motivation without expectation". dont put too much emphasis on the end result, because you will never know how it might end with a girl. Just go out there and have an awesome time, dance how you want to dance and with the girls you want to do it with. don't let *****es get in the way of your fun and people will notice that and be attracted by it. thinking about relationships when you first meet a girl will scare her off.
 
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