"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Playing the Long Game, waiting longer than you'd like to ask a girl out

Building_and_Loan

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This past September I joined a local business-development networking group to help further my career and get out and meet new people, and I also wanted to just have something more to do with my free time.

There are 8 of us in this group, and coincidentally they are all girls except for me. There's a girl in the group who has shown mild interest now and then such as a really friendly "hey Building_and_Loan, how are you?" to me even though there are others there too, sitting closer to my side of the table at networking events, talking to me, and talking about how she doesn't have a significant other (not directly to me, but when she knew I was around and could hear her).

The problem is that joining this professional business group was/is important to me so I didn't want to jeopardize it by being the new guy and immediately asking out the hottest girl in the group, I decided against being "that guy" and just used the group as a way to plan networking events and such. Plus it gave me a chance to get to know her and see that we have things in common.

Well now I want to date her lol, but I'm starting to think, have I waited too long to ask her out? Normally I would never wait this long, but in my opinion, time isn't more important than the amount of instances I've actually seen her. She's the one who interviewed me for my acceptance into this professional group, so including that face to face meeting, I think I've seen her no more than 7-8 times since September, and our one-on-one time is extremely limited since it's always a group setting. I see this group about every 3 weeks or so. At least two of those meetings were during our group meetings early in the morning too, so there was no good time to ask her out because we all dash out of there to head to work right after, and we can only talk strictly business since we're pressed for time.

I definitely know that I'm not in any type of "friend zone" as we're not friends on Facebook, I don't have her number, and I think I still have that level of mystery to her. My only concern is that she now thinks I'm not interested in her because I haven't asked her out yet, so she decided to emotionally move on, but I could be overthinking that too.

Thoughts? I need some objective analysis, thanks in advance.
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Building_and_Loan

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Yep good call, that's what I was thinking and worried about too but I'm good.

Thanks for reassuring me haha. I'll definitely have to escalate sexually on the date too with some kino and all. I need her to think of me as a sexual being.
 
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