Hey guys, quick question. Theres this girl that im considering going after and we've been texting and whatnot the past couple weeks. i've asked her twice if she would like to grab lunch or just to hang out but she always seems to be busy. i kinda get the feeling that shes playing hard to get and i know thats not how it should be. i dont wanna come off as needy or a "wussy" but i really wanna spend some time with her so i can figure out if shes worth it or not. how can i get her out without coming off as needy? thanks
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
playing hard to get?
- Thread starter duke104
- Start date
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Ollie
Don Juan
Ignore her
Thatfeel21
Senior Don Juan
you're gonna have to ignore her for at least 5 days or so then out of the blue tell her you're going somewhere and she should join you. Dont ask her to join you TELL her to. It's more commanding.
Ollie
Don Juan
If she tries texting you and knows you're around just give her like one sentence answers saying you're busy and leave it at that. Dont you initiate anything at all tho. Girls like attention and pulling it away makes them jealous once they're used to getting it