"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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A few years ago, there was a good friend of mine who bought himself his first computer. Back then, both of us loved playing games all the time, we could just get together and play the whole day long.

After a while I stopped playing so much and did other things like school and sports and stuff like that. But my friend became really obsessed about his computer games. In the morning he would get up, start his computer, chat a little while, then play till the evening and finally shut down the computer and go to sleep.

I simply didn't get it. He wasn't available for any other activities anymore. I guess he confused his hobby (playing computer games) with his life. The computer became his life. If he lost a game he would even start yelling. It became a highly emotional thing...

A few years later, I found myself falling in love for the first time. I was 15 back then. Well, this girl became my life, I pretty much stopped doing anything else. When she told me that she just wanted to be friends I felt like I had lost the meaning of my life.

A few weeks ago I read one of pooks articles (yes, pook again ;)) where he wrote that players confused girls with their life because PU was their life.

What is the difference between a DJ and a player? Well, PU is a hobby or love in general should be something like a hobby, like collecting stamps, playing soccer or playing computer games. But how many people start to place their happiness on getting a girlfriend? This is like people sitting in front of their computers for weeks playing WoW, trying to get this epic weapon or something like that.

Again there is this problem of either doing too much or too little. If you for example play baseball but you don't try hard you are not going to be very good at it. If you are passionate about it, you'll be able to get really good at it. You can be ambitious and we all know that girls like ambitious guys. But you can also overdo it!

We are encouraged to take love too seriously. My parents told me to be really nice to girls, I might hurt them or something. Well, guess what, I do Kung Fu and I better stop punshing or kicking or I might hurt someone...

I know that some people really like all this seduction stuff, DHV, neg-hits, mirroring, patterns and so on. Others say, that this is putting the focus on the girl and as a DJ, you are not supposed to do this.

I see being a DJ as being passionate about my life, living out my dreams. Yes, the focus should be on YOU. But have you ever played in a band? If you don't listen to your fellow musicians at all, you are going to mess up the song. Same goes for seduction. Use those tools! Just because you are mirroring her doesn't mean the focus isn't on you. You are seducing her in the first place because YOU want to. It's like a hobby. Learn the rules. Develop your own rules. There is nothing bad about using player techniques, but about being a player in terms of only living for ONS.

I found that 'pook's school' as some might call it, is an excellent attitude and frame. But there should be something inside this frame, don't you think?

So treat your lovelife like a hobby!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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good post

I like it.

comic_relief
 

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Ah, your friend misattributed his hobby (comp. gaming) to his life. Pretty bad, unlike when you take a chick on a rollercoaster for a 1st date and she misattributes the excitement for you (very good)..interesting points throughout this thread, make yourself responsible for happiness and not someone else be ur source of happiness.
 

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Al Moh. said:
A few years ago, there was a good friend of mine who bought himself his first computer. Back then, both of us loved playing games all the time, we could just get together and play the whole day long.

After a while I stopped playing so much and did other things like school and sports and stuff like that. But my friend became really obsessed about his computer games. In the morning he would get up, start his computer, chat a little while, then play till the evening and finally shut down the computer and go to sleep.

I simply didn't get it. He wasn't available for any other activities anymore. I guess he confused his hobby (playing computer games) with his life. The computer became his life. If he lost a game he would even start yelling. It became a highly emotional thing...
Is this your friend? :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBVmfIUR1DA&feature=related
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Great post. Its really the right way to look at women and the game.

Its just a fun hobby I enjoy along with my other hobbies like fishing, biking, and rock throwing.
 

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MooseGod said:
Rock throwing? Do you live in Afghanistan?
I do what I love and I love what I do and that my friend is throwin rocks.






and no im not afghany. but i hear nice things about their rocks
 

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To sum it up, DJ's are ugly guys who play world of warcraft who watched seduction videos and went to seduction boards to get tips on how to get laid.

While Players, are fvckable guys who have been good with women their whole lives
 

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Wouldn't you like to know? ;)
And the last post is complete bull****. Get outta here, 'cos you know that ain't right. DJ's focus on their own lives and love what they do, whereas players have only fvcking women as their life. By, all means, they get the girl. But they dont focus on anything else.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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verysuave said:
To sum it up, DJ's are ugly guys who play world of warcraft who watched seduction videos and went to seduction boards to get tips on how to get laid.

While Players, are fvckable guys who have been good with women their whole lives
then why are you here?

comic_relief
 

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john paul said:
I do what I love and I love what I do and that my friend is throwin rocks.
About that rock throwing, it reminds me of the game that I played with my friends. We would stand in the shale pit and one person would run up a hill. We would throw rocks at the person, while the runner would dodge and block his way until he got to the top of the hill.

It was a really fun game to play.

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ok, i have a concept about this whole DJ and Player. DJ is what attracts and you cannot escape him, he is teh one among all, player is what achieves its target. so DJ is kind of a natural and Player is kind of a skill. u can be a DJ and still ahve a wife and a family but when u r a player, u go for many. thats what i think. man, its not that players are bad or dj si bad, i think every guy present in this site or viewing this has a different plan or goal for himself, if he plans to kill every woman and get laid 7 days a week, thumbs up to him for getting so much energy, then again hats off to the guy who says he is what he is and if girls like him and want to talk to him, its ok with him but he is not gonna sleep with all of them, he is waiting for the rite one. its what you want, after all!
 
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