Zerotwoonenine
Senior Don Juan
hey guys, i have noticed some guys come here for help with relationships, whilst others come here to learn from players. so i was wondering, what are you(all stats confidential)
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
To my opinion, if you are having fun, living the way you are living with hook-ups and a rotation of girls, I don't really see the problem (with the assumption the girls don't care either or not exactly people to respect that much which if they are b!tchy dumb broads giving sh!t, then they are not exactly people to respect). However, I do have a problem if people on the other spectrum should be looked at only mere fools, if they aren't reeling in drama and taking ****, if the girl bring additional joy to the person's life, isn't that just as good as your path? My experiences reflects that not all women should be just view as sperm dumps as since there are those who can give a meaningful conversation instead of just hearing them complain about their boring crappy day. I like their company enough because of that I don't want to just pump and dump and never see them again. So, I speak in defense that the other side is not like only for fools or people in their 30's either, though I do think a discerning and discipline mind in a contentful life is required, because there are those who only take the first girl they see who only causes trouble but still stand by because of various reasons, that's is the real problem of the other end of the spectrum.Rhoto said:There is no point in having a relationship before you're into your late 20s. It's really that simple.
You can talk about companionship, or the way she makes me feel or any of that text book, regurgitated societal bullsh1t but you only make one thing evident: You are a loser with women. Especially if you're under 25.
I used to think that the goal of gaming chicks was to get into a loving, committed relationship where we shared life experiences and grew into one person. We'd have this everlasting love and there would be happiness unbound.
Wow, was that stupid.
Every day you have morons that log in, talk about their girlfriend and how much she means to them, and one of three things happen.
1) Some one cheats
2) Some one lies
3) Some one is suspected of cheating/want to maintain the love
Then they come here looking for advice or a pat on the back, when in reality their situation is FUBAR. But when some one suggests to DTB, they get defensive and use some cop out like "She's been there for me" or "I don't want to hurt her" and the worst part is, that they're all young bros.
(My personal guess is that a majority of these dudes grew up in single parent households or have a hyphenated last name, thus they succumb to the will of women.)
What are you, a pvssy? Man up boys, don't take sh1t from ANYONE, let alone some dumb broad.
My stance - Treat women as sperm dumpsters. I learned this from Leykis and it works. And please save you "quality" argument for some one who cares, I've gotten chicks that I thought were wayyyyyyyyyyyy too hot to give the time of day. Now I glaze chicks like that. And you want to know the best part? That its gets easier and easier the more you do it.
I've thought about my past girlfriends and realized, the only reason I tolerated them was to have sex. They've never said anything enlightening, given any insight, been able to carry a discussion about something that I'm interested in. I don't like talking on the phone, or having listen to any chick complain about her day.
Avoid marriage because in modern society, there is absolutely no benefit for a man to get married. ZERO.
And I'm curious OP - why is my lifestyle the "dark side" where as a monogamous one is the "light?" Have you felt the power of the Dark Side?
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
i have, and i thought about both. the reason i became a dj was because i was hurt deep by a girl, then i was drawn to the dark side. but then after learning everything and i was having a choice between 5 hot girls, i just couldn't do the dark choice, i just couldn't play them all. so i took one into my arms and shes still with me(and its been over a year and half now). it is wonderful. i think it is decided at your birth whether you are on the light/dark side.Rhoto said:There is no point in having a relationship before you're into your late 20s. It's really that simple.
You can talk about companionship, or the way she makes me feel or any of that text book, regurgitated societal bullsh1t but you only make one thing evident: You are a loser with women. Especially if you're under 25.
I used to think that the goal of gaming chicks was to get into a loving, committed relationship where we shared life experiences and grew into one person. We'd have this everlasting love and there would be happiness unbound.
Wow, was that stupid.
Every day you have morons that log in, talk about their girlfriend and how much she means to them, and one of three things happen.
1) Some one cheats
2) Some one lies
3) Some one is suspected of cheating/want to maintain the love
Then they come here looking for advice or a pat on the back, when in reality their situation is FUBAR. But when some one suggests to DTB, they get defensive and use some cop out like "She's been there for me" or "I don't want to hurt her" and the worst part is, that they're all young bros.
(My personal guess is that a majority of these dudes grew up in single parent households or have a hyphenated last name, thus they succumb to the will of women.)
What are you, a pvssy? Man up boys, don't take sh1t from ANYONE, let alone some dumb broad.
My stance - Treat women as sperm dumpsters. I learned this from Leykis and it works. And please save you "quality" argument for some one who cares, I've gotten chicks that I thought were wayyyyyyyyyyyy too hot to give the time of day. Now I glaze chicks like that. And you want to know the best part? That its gets easier and easier the more you do it.
I've thought about my past girlfriends and realized, the only reason I tolerated them was to have sex. They've never said anything enlightening, given any insight, been able to carry a discussion about something that I'm interested in. I don't like talking on the phone, or having listen to any chick complain about her day.
Avoid marriage because in modern society, there is absolutely no benefit for a man to get married. ZERO.
And I'm curious OP - why is my lifestyle the "dark side" where as a monogamous one is the "light?" Have you felt the power of the Dark Side?
agreeed. some good sht comin out here. keep it goin guys. i think ppl don't change, if you decide you are light, then you are. if you start off as dark, you can't change.Jon55 said:Cheating? Come on guys. Jesus.
There's a fine line between getting laid and being a jackass. Any guy who knowingly cheats is just amplifying his insecurity about his past or must still have a bitterness towards women, making him no better than the "AFC" he gives so much sh!t to.
Women are people too. Just because you're still mad you got dumped back in high school doesn't mean you should take it out on every girl possible. I wasn't aware PUA's didn't have morals. Yes, I say PUA's because a Don Juan wouldn't do crap like that, because a Don Juan understands respect both for himself and other people.
This is, of course, assuming the girl you're seeing is actually faithful and the two of you are in a solid relationship. Now if the girl just wants a ONS, well, then by all means enjoy.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I agree. Since I've never had a GF I placed myself under the second option(although it should have been the first). I don't know what an honest to goodness LTR is like so its naturally what ive been looking for and not just some side fcuk. Of course, im open to the fact that my choice is subject to change...DonGorgon said:MOst people go through phases when they want to play and them want a relationship then want to cheat... THere are so many variables that it is impossible to honestly realistically say you can choose just one option...
On top of that both people have to want the same thing for anything to work so that adds more issues...
Many people dont and many never will... the way the capitalist society is structured now is just not conducve for deep meaning full social concepts like marriage and LTRs... there is to much competition and uncertainty for people to come together and stick together....Rebound Material said:I don't know what an honest to goodness LTR is like..
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.