Zerotwoonenine
Senior Don Juan
hey guys, i have noticed some guys come here for help with relationships, whilst others come here to learn from players. so i was wondering, what are you(all stats confidential)
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
To my opinion, if you are having fun, living the way you are living with hook-ups and a rotation of girls, I don't really see the problem (with the assumption the girls don't care either or not exactly people to respect that much which if they are b!tchy dumb broads giving sh!t, then they are not exactly people to respect). However, I do have a problem if people on the other spectrum should be looked at only mere fools, if they aren't reeling in drama and taking ****, if the girl bring additional joy to the person's life, isn't that just as good as your path? My experiences reflects that not all women should be just view as sperm dumps as since there are those who can give a meaningful conversation instead of just hearing them complain about their boring crappy day. I like their company enough because of that I don't want to just pump and dump and never see them again. So, I speak in defense that the other side is not like only for fools or people in their 30's either, though I do think a discerning and discipline mind in a contentful life is required, because there are those who only take the first girl they see who only causes trouble but still stand by because of various reasons, that's is the real problem of the other end of the spectrum.Rhoto said:There is no point in having a relationship before you're into your late 20s. It's really that simple.
You can talk about companionship, or the way she makes me feel or any of that text book, regurgitated societal bullsh1t but you only make one thing evident: You are a loser with women. Especially if you're under 25.
I used to think that the goal of gaming chicks was to get into a loving, committed relationship where we shared life experiences and grew into one person. We'd have this everlasting love and there would be happiness unbound.
Wow, was that stupid.
Every day you have morons that log in, talk about their girlfriend and how much she means to them, and one of three things happen.
1) Some one cheats
2) Some one lies
3) Some one is suspected of cheating/want to maintain the love
Then they come here looking for advice or a pat on the back, when in reality their situation is FUBAR. But when some one suggests to DTB, they get defensive and use some cop out like "She's been there for me" or "I don't want to hurt her" and the worst part is, that they're all young bros.
(My personal guess is that a majority of these dudes grew up in single parent households or have a hyphenated last name, thus they succumb to the will of women.)
What are you, a pvssy? Man up boys, don't take sh1t from ANYONE, let alone some dumb broad.
My stance - Treat women as sperm dumpsters. I learned this from Leykis and it works. And please save you "quality" argument for some one who cares, I've gotten chicks that I thought were wayyyyyyyyyyyy too hot to give the time of day. Now I glaze chicks like that. And you want to know the best part? That its gets easier and easier the more you do it.
I've thought about my past girlfriends and realized, the only reason I tolerated them was to have sex. They've never said anything enlightening, given any insight, been able to carry a discussion about something that I'm interested in. I don't like talking on the phone, or having listen to any chick complain about her day.
Avoid marriage because in modern society, there is absolutely no benefit for a man to get married. ZERO.
And I'm curious OP - why is my lifestyle the "dark side" where as a monogamous one is the "light?" Have you felt the power of the Dark Side?
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
i have, and i thought about both. the reason i became a dj was because i was hurt deep by a girl, then i was drawn to the dark side. but then after learning everything and i was having a choice between 5 hot girls, i just couldn't do the dark choice, i just couldn't play them all. so i took one into my arms and shes still with me(and its been over a year and half now). it is wonderful. i think it is decided at your birth whether you are on the light/dark side.Rhoto said:There is no point in having a relationship before you're into your late 20s. It's really that simple.
You can talk about companionship, or the way she makes me feel or any of that text book, regurgitated societal bullsh1t but you only make one thing evident: You are a loser with women. Especially if you're under 25.
I used to think that the goal of gaming chicks was to get into a loving, committed relationship where we shared life experiences and grew into one person. We'd have this everlasting love and there would be happiness unbound.
Wow, was that stupid.
Every day you have morons that log in, talk about their girlfriend and how much she means to them, and one of three things happen.
1) Some one cheats
2) Some one lies
3) Some one is suspected of cheating/want to maintain the love
Then they come here looking for advice or a pat on the back, when in reality their situation is FUBAR. But when some one suggests to DTB, they get defensive and use some cop out like "She's been there for me" or "I don't want to hurt her" and the worst part is, that they're all young bros.
(My personal guess is that a majority of these dudes grew up in single parent households or have a hyphenated last name, thus they succumb to the will of women.)
What are you, a pvssy? Man up boys, don't take sh1t from ANYONE, let alone some dumb broad.
My stance - Treat women as sperm dumpsters. I learned this from Leykis and it works. And please save you "quality" argument for some one who cares, I've gotten chicks that I thought were wayyyyyyyyyyyy too hot to give the time of day. Now I glaze chicks like that. And you want to know the best part? That its gets easier and easier the more you do it.
I've thought about my past girlfriends and realized, the only reason I tolerated them was to have sex. They've never said anything enlightening, given any insight, been able to carry a discussion about something that I'm interested in. I don't like talking on the phone, or having listen to any chick complain about her day.
Avoid marriage because in modern society, there is absolutely no benefit for a man to get married. ZERO.
And I'm curious OP - why is my lifestyle the "dark side" where as a monogamous one is the "light?" Have you felt the power of the Dark Side?
agreeed. some good sht comin out here. keep it goin guys. i think ppl don't change, if you decide you are light, then you are. if you start off as dark, you can't change.Jon55 said:Cheating? Come on guys. Jesus.
There's a fine line between getting laid and being a jackass. Any guy who knowingly cheats is just amplifying his insecurity about his past or must still have a bitterness towards women, making him no better than the "AFC" he gives so much sh!t to.
Women are people too. Just because you're still mad you got dumped back in high school doesn't mean you should take it out on every girl possible. I wasn't aware PUA's didn't have morals. Yes, I say PUA's because a Don Juan wouldn't do crap like that, because a Don Juan understands respect both for himself and other people.
This is, of course, assuming the girl you're seeing is actually faithful and the two of you are in a solid relationship. Now if the girl just wants a ONS, well, then by all means enjoy.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I agree. Since I've never had a GF I placed myself under the second option(although it should have been the first). I don't know what an honest to goodness LTR is like so its naturally what ive been looking for and not just some side fcuk. Of course, im open to the fact that my choice is subject to change...DonGorgon said:MOst people go through phases when they want to play and them want a relationship then want to cheat... THere are so many variables that it is impossible to honestly realistically say you can choose just one option...
On top of that both people have to want the same thing for anything to work so that adds more issues...
Many people dont and many never will... the way the capitalist society is structured now is just not conducve for deep meaning full social concepts like marriage and LTRs... there is to much competition and uncertainty for people to come together and stick together....Rebound Material said:I don't know what an honest to goodness LTR is like..
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.