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Rubato
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Good morning everyone, I am Rubato and brand new here. For those unfamiliar with music, rubato is a period in a musical piece where timing is given secondary importance emotional expression. I liked this meaning as a soon to be PUA. First I'm going to talk about my experiences tonight (what I'd like feedback on the most) and then some background.
Tonight
3 or 4 weeks ago I met an HB8 named Liz at a country line dancing place I go to. She was my friend's GF's friend. I'm at a banquet for my dad's work tonight (he's a doctor, so it was posh) and she texts me (keep in mind, I had no idea this was her). Here is the conversation we had:
Liz: You should get here soon
Me: Who is this?
Liz: Guess
Me: Nice to meet you guess
you have a unique name.
Liz: I get that a lot
So how much longer will you be?
Me: A little while still. i do have one request though. could you be so kind as to honor it?
Liz: Depends what it is...
Me: Its very simple. im just wondering where it is that you expect I will be coming.
Liz: Lol don't play dumb now. The ***** of course!
Me: All right, I know who this is.
(I had borrowed my dad's smart phone... I have a dumb phone... and had a feeling this was liz. I looked her facebook up and verified her number there)
Liz: You remember my name?
(I hadn't seen her in 3 or 4 weeks since we met, and it was a very brief meeting)
Me: Liz ******
Liz: How the hell do you know my last name?! Lol
Me: You told me at the outside bar when I met you
(She really hadn't, I found it on facebook, but thought it would sound more impressive if I remembered her last name)
Liz: Seriously? Wow. Don't remember that lol. Guess it was about a month ago though.
Me: Well, you'll still have to wait a little bit before I get tehre. Good thing for you though is, I'm worth it
Liz: Wow, pretty sure of yourself aren't you? How do you know I'd think you're worth it?
(I took that as an IOI and assumed she met she did think I was worth it)
Me: Well, I'm sure a large part of it comes from my flawless dancing last time
(I was awful. I haven't been country line dancing very long and knew almost none of the songs. I looked awful, but it was fun)
Liz: I know, it was awesome! Blew me away lol
(after some time)
Liz: ......
Me: 5 dots... this must be serious.....
Liz: You didn't respond, so I was left hangin
Me: What a terrible place to be. But on the bright side, the banquet is officially over.
Liz: Finally!
Liz: ETA?
Me: 11 15 ish
(we started texting maybe at 9:30. I had awful reception where I was and was hobnobbing it with some Congressmen. I had **** to do!)
Liz: Jesus you take forever
Me: Don't forget that patience is a virtue and often is rewarded. The best things in life are worth waiting for
(I could have negged her there for saying "Jesus" when she says she's an atheist. Just thought of that)
Liz: Dude. Youre so dumb <3 Andrew
(My friend Andrew was already there with Liz and apparently reading the texts I was sending her. Now he's responding. I thought he was also with his GF Kate, but I would find out I was wrong.)
Me: <3 you too
Liz: Who was that winkie face for?
Me: Andrew, ovbiously
Liz: Well of course
Me: I'm not a slut with my winky faces. He sent me a <3, he got a winky face.
Liz: He was texting on my phone, and the heart was my idea. So there
(Another IOI)
Me: Too bad he already got the wink. Looks like you'll have to convince me for another one
(Qualifying her)
Liz: Meh. Probably too much work.
Me: it was never meant to be a challenge for the weak
Liz: Challenge accepted.
By the time she said that, I was so giddy from the conversation that I was almost ready to sing to myself. You can read my backstory that I'll post later to see why. I'm not saying there are no AFC elements in this, but I will definitely say this was a great texting conversation for me. But I'd like your feedback on it and what I could have done better.
I went in to the club feeling like the man and as soon as I got there, I ran in to the only girl I know there who's a regular. She's an HB5, great personality, but really over weight and I don't even remember her name to be honest. But I talked with her and couldn't find Andrew and Liz (and I thought Kate). I didn't really even remember what Liz looked like. I eventually found them and proceeded to die.
My game is a lot better in nonpersonal things, like texting, email, and online convos. One of the biggest things I need to work on is making my personal game amazing. Andrew's GF wasn't there and he was acting unusually sexual towards Liz. I've never seen him display very much sexual energy at all, and therefore, never thought of him as a threat. But he had his arm around her and was basically controlling the situation. As far as I was concerned, he was the AMOG and I didn't know how to get around that. There are a few things she said to me that I had no idea how to respond to.
First, I don't know the electric slide. There. I said it. And she asked me "How can you not know the electric slide????" And I had nothing to say. So I just said something like "Because I don't". Not the worst thing possible to say. But when I girl says something like that to you, there has to be a better response.
Second, she had dyed her hair and I didn't notice. She made a comment about that. I told her something like "you should have dyed your hair pink. If you had done something like that, I would have noticed". How was that?
Third, she made fun of my line dancing in general. They did the cha cha slide and I'll admit, when I dance, I may look like a jackass. I have a ballroom dancing background and use my hips and move. Differently than most people. But I do it congruently, I think, and I didn't let her comments bother me. I kept telling her things like "you're just jealous", ect. What would you guys say?
Andrew and Liz wanted to move to a vegas style dance club in downtown and so we did. I tried to get this other girl we knew Leanna HB7.5 to come. She left with us, but didn't end up actually coming and went home instead. I got to the club first because Liz wanted to change out of her country garb and wear something else. I just went straight to the club. By this point, I was really deflated because I felt like I had screwed everything up with this girl. And not only that, but I totally lost my game. When people were slow dancing at the first club we were at, I couldn't get the balls to ask anyone to dance with me. Andrew did what I had planned to do, took Liz's hand, and danced with her. So I sat in the back like a jackass, wanting to kick my own ass.
I got to the new club first by about 15 minutes, walked in, and watched everyone grinding on each other to the pounding dance music. I felt even more out of my element than before. Keep in mind through all of this, I've been detoxing from Klonopin and Ritalin. I have a prescription for it for reasons I'll go in to in my backstory, but I had saved some temazepam (another benzo, like klonopin) from other prescriptions I'd had and was starting to use my medications abusively. School starts on Monday and I wanted to take a break before then to try and ratchet my tolerance down some. The dr. thought this was a good idea, but instead of tapering down, I stopped cold turkey (dumb).
So my mind has been mush, I've had a cloud in my head, been agitated, anxious, and an insomniac.
And as I watched people dance, I couldn't get the gal to even move on to the dance floor. Given that just last week I was cold approaching women wherever I saw them and am on my college's dance competition team, I was really getting frustrated with myself. And ejected. I walked back to my car and was planning on going home and ending my sobriety. I felt like the biggest idiot.
Then Liz and Andrew texted me asking me where I was. I told Andrew I was just gonna go home because I felt like I was in a bad state of mind. He knew about my drug holiday. Then Liz texted me:
"You are NOT going home"
I was still planning on going, but somehow they convinced me to come back. I'm glad they did, because I partially redeemed the night.
Andrew may have had a clearer mind tonight and usually strong balls, but he thinks PUA stuff is bull**** and disrespectful and won't touch it. I have been studying it. And once I break the ice with a girl, I'm much more confident in my sexual energy than he is. I kiss girls on the 1st date. He didn't even try to kiss his GF until after 5 or 6 dates!! And couldn't figure out why she didn't kiss him and promptly ejected.
The 3 of us got on the dance floor and I just danced. I watched Andrew and Liz dance out of my peripheral vision, but focused on myself. She pulled me in and I started dancing with her. But I ejected quickly because I didn't wanted her to feel like I wasn't interested. Conveniently enough, there was a girl I had been playing some dance moves off of that had this blond friend, at least an HB8.5, maybe an HB9. She said "I like you" and pushed her blond friend in to me. And I grinded on her for a few songs. And I left her.
Tonight
3 or 4 weeks ago I met an HB8 named Liz at a country line dancing place I go to. She was my friend's GF's friend. I'm at a banquet for my dad's work tonight (he's a doctor, so it was posh) and she texts me (keep in mind, I had no idea this was her). Here is the conversation we had:
Liz: You should get here soon
Me: Who is this?
Liz: Guess
Me: Nice to meet you guess
Liz: I get that a lot
Me: A little while still. i do have one request though. could you be so kind as to honor it?
Liz: Depends what it is...
Me: Its very simple. im just wondering where it is that you expect I will be coming.
Liz: Lol don't play dumb now. The ***** of course!
Me: All right, I know who this is.
(I had borrowed my dad's smart phone... I have a dumb phone... and had a feeling this was liz. I looked her facebook up and verified her number there)
Liz: You remember my name?
(I hadn't seen her in 3 or 4 weeks since we met, and it was a very brief meeting)
Me: Liz ******
Liz: How the hell do you know my last name?! Lol
Me: You told me at the outside bar when I met you
(She really hadn't, I found it on facebook, but thought it would sound more impressive if I remembered her last name)
Liz: Seriously? Wow. Don't remember that lol. Guess it was about a month ago though.
Me: Well, you'll still have to wait a little bit before I get tehre. Good thing for you though is, I'm worth it
Liz: Wow, pretty sure of yourself aren't you? How do you know I'd think you're worth it?
(I took that as an IOI and assumed she met she did think I was worth it)
Me: Well, I'm sure a large part of it comes from my flawless dancing last time
(I was awful. I haven't been country line dancing very long and knew almost none of the songs. I looked awful, but it was fun)
Liz: I know, it was awesome! Blew me away lol
(after some time)
Liz: ......
Me: 5 dots... this must be serious.....
Liz: You didn't respond, so I was left hangin
Me: What a terrible place to be. But on the bright side, the banquet is officially over.
Liz: Finally!
Liz: ETA?
Me: 11 15 ish
(we started texting maybe at 9:30. I had awful reception where I was and was hobnobbing it with some Congressmen. I had **** to do!)
Liz: Jesus you take forever
Me: Don't forget that patience is a virtue and often is rewarded. The best things in life are worth waiting for
(I could have negged her there for saying "Jesus" when she says she's an atheist. Just thought of that)
Liz: Dude. Youre so dumb <3 Andrew
(My friend Andrew was already there with Liz and apparently reading the texts I was sending her. Now he's responding. I thought he was also with his GF Kate, but I would find out I was wrong.)
Me: <3 you too
Liz: Who was that winkie face for?
Me: Andrew, ovbiously
Liz: Well of course
Me: I'm not a slut with my winky faces. He sent me a <3, he got a winky face.
Liz: He was texting on my phone, and the heart was my idea. So there
(Another IOI)
Me: Too bad he already got the wink. Looks like you'll have to convince me for another one
(Qualifying her)
Liz: Meh. Probably too much work.
Me: it was never meant to be a challenge for the weak
Liz: Challenge accepted.
By the time she said that, I was so giddy from the conversation that I was almost ready to sing to myself. You can read my backstory that I'll post later to see why. I'm not saying there are no AFC elements in this, but I will definitely say this was a great texting conversation for me. But I'd like your feedback on it and what I could have done better.
I went in to the club feeling like the man and as soon as I got there, I ran in to the only girl I know there who's a regular. She's an HB5, great personality, but really over weight and I don't even remember her name to be honest. But I talked with her and couldn't find Andrew and Liz (and I thought Kate). I didn't really even remember what Liz looked like. I eventually found them and proceeded to die.
My game is a lot better in nonpersonal things, like texting, email, and online convos. One of the biggest things I need to work on is making my personal game amazing. Andrew's GF wasn't there and he was acting unusually sexual towards Liz. I've never seen him display very much sexual energy at all, and therefore, never thought of him as a threat. But he had his arm around her and was basically controlling the situation. As far as I was concerned, he was the AMOG and I didn't know how to get around that. There are a few things she said to me that I had no idea how to respond to.
First, I don't know the electric slide. There. I said it. And she asked me "How can you not know the electric slide????" And I had nothing to say. So I just said something like "Because I don't". Not the worst thing possible to say. But when I girl says something like that to you, there has to be a better response.
Second, she had dyed her hair and I didn't notice. She made a comment about that. I told her something like "you should have dyed your hair pink. If you had done something like that, I would have noticed". How was that?
Third, she made fun of my line dancing in general. They did the cha cha slide and I'll admit, when I dance, I may look like a jackass. I have a ballroom dancing background and use my hips and move. Differently than most people. But I do it congruently, I think, and I didn't let her comments bother me. I kept telling her things like "you're just jealous", ect. What would you guys say?
Andrew and Liz wanted to move to a vegas style dance club in downtown and so we did. I tried to get this other girl we knew Leanna HB7.5 to come. She left with us, but didn't end up actually coming and went home instead. I got to the club first because Liz wanted to change out of her country garb and wear something else. I just went straight to the club. By this point, I was really deflated because I felt like I had screwed everything up with this girl. And not only that, but I totally lost my game. When people were slow dancing at the first club we were at, I couldn't get the balls to ask anyone to dance with me. Andrew did what I had planned to do, took Liz's hand, and danced with her. So I sat in the back like a jackass, wanting to kick my own ass.
I got to the new club first by about 15 minutes, walked in, and watched everyone grinding on each other to the pounding dance music. I felt even more out of my element than before. Keep in mind through all of this, I've been detoxing from Klonopin and Ritalin. I have a prescription for it for reasons I'll go in to in my backstory, but I had saved some temazepam (another benzo, like klonopin) from other prescriptions I'd had and was starting to use my medications abusively. School starts on Monday and I wanted to take a break before then to try and ratchet my tolerance down some. The dr. thought this was a good idea, but instead of tapering down, I stopped cold turkey (dumb).
So my mind has been mush, I've had a cloud in my head, been agitated, anxious, and an insomniac.
And as I watched people dance, I couldn't get the gal to even move on to the dance floor. Given that just last week I was cold approaching women wherever I saw them and am on my college's dance competition team, I was really getting frustrated with myself. And ejected. I walked back to my car and was planning on going home and ending my sobriety. I felt like the biggest idiot.
Then Liz and Andrew texted me asking me where I was. I told Andrew I was just gonna go home because I felt like I was in a bad state of mind. He knew about my drug holiday. Then Liz texted me:
"You are NOT going home"
I was still planning on going, but somehow they convinced me to come back. I'm glad they did, because I partially redeemed the night.
Andrew may have had a clearer mind tonight and usually strong balls, but he thinks PUA stuff is bull**** and disrespectful and won't touch it. I have been studying it. And once I break the ice with a girl, I'm much more confident in my sexual energy than he is. I kiss girls on the 1st date. He didn't even try to kiss his GF until after 5 or 6 dates!! And couldn't figure out why she didn't kiss him and promptly ejected.
The 3 of us got on the dance floor and I just danced. I watched Andrew and Liz dance out of my peripheral vision, but focused on myself. She pulled me in and I started dancing with her. But I ejected quickly because I didn't wanted her to feel like I wasn't interested. Conveniently enough, there was a girl I had been playing some dance moves off of that had this blond friend, at least an HB8.5, maybe an HB9. She said "I like you" and pushed her blond friend in to me. And I grinded on her for a few songs. And I left her.