"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Picked up girl on Train

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I was on the train today coming home from work and was feelin horrible bout myself. I just had a few really crappy experiences with girls and i just felt and looked like absoulte crap. I hadn't shaved since sunday and i have the worst beard ever, i have a recent bad acne breakout, and little sleep last night. Well this girl walks in the train, really cute, blonde, beautiful eyes(reese witherspoon clone) She stands across from me and leans on the opposite pole as me. I had a feelin she did that cuz she thought i was cute, cuz she didnt even look for a seat and there was several empty ones. (its a 25 min commute for her, not just 1 stop)

She kept glancing over when i wasnt looking, and occasionally we made eye contact, awkwardly and she would make a smirky oops kinda expression. So im listenin to my ipod scrambling for a reason to start conversation with her, somethin to say, about to go nuts, and i get an amazing stroke of luck. A weirdo with drool comin down his chin and his pants rolled up to the knees with socks pulled up walks in and bumps into her. I smile at her and she start smiling and looks at the guy in amused astonishment, so then i dunno why but when i saw her expression i got the giggles and started laughing silenty trying to hold it in and she sees me laughing and she starts lauhging out loud, and says im gonna kill u, u jerk, u made me laugh! It was like god sent me a an icebreaker it was perfect. So we started talkin and i find out she lives 5 mins from me and 2 blocks from my job.

So i said we work so close we should do lunch sometime. She said yea def, so i asked her number. She told me her cell wasnt working, so she gave me her work number. I said hey this is prob some porn hotline or somethin and laughed, and she goes i swear my cells broken. I tested it afterward it is her work number so she wasnt lying.

Should i call her tomorow? If so should i make plans for the same day or for next week? Also i rather do a drink than a meal cuz meals are awkward with someone u just met. So should i suggest doin a drink after work rather than meet for lunch? Is it a bad idea to suggest a drink for tom night, cuz then it will look like i got nothin to do on a friday night?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You should have said "We should do lunch tomorrow" and sidestepped all the mental turmoil you're causing yourself.

Just call her and ask what her schedule looks like. If she shows signs of being free sooner than later it could mean that she has a fairly high IL. If so, don't let it go to waste.
 

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DJinTraining06 said:
I was on the train today coming home from work and was feelin horrible bout myself. I just had a few really crappy experiences with girls and i just felt and looked like absoulte crap. I hadn't shaved since sunday and i have the worst beard ever, i have a recent bad acne breakout, and little sleep last night. Well this girl walks in the train, really cute, blonde, beautiful eyes(reese witherspoon clone) She stands across from me and leans on the opposite pole as me. I had a feelin she did that cuz she thought i was cute, cuz she didnt even look for a seat and there was several empty ones. (its a 25 min commute for her, not just 1 stop)

She kept glancing over when i wasnt looking, and occasionally we made eye contact, awkwardly and she would make a smirky oops kinda expression. So im listenin to my ipod scrambling for a reason to start conversation with her, somethin to say, about to go nuts, and i get an amazing stroke of luck. A weirdo with drool comin down his chin and his pants rolled up to the knees with socks pulled up walks in and bumps into her. I smile at her and she start smiling and looks at the guy in amused astonishment, so then i dunno why but when i saw her expression i got the giggles and started laughing silenty trying to hold it in and she sees me laughing and she starts lauhging out loud, and says im gonna kill u, u jerk, u made me laugh! It was like god sent me a an icebreaker it was perfect. So we started talkin and i find out she lives 5 mins from me and 2 blocks from my job.

So i said we work so close we should do lunch sometime. She said yea def, so i asked her number. She told me her cell wasnt working, so she gave me her work number. I said hey this is prob some porn hotline or somethin and laughed, and she goes i swear my cells broken. I tested it afterward it is her work number so she wasnt lying.

Should i call her tomorow? If so should i make plans for the same day or for next week? Also i rather do a drink than a meal cuz meals are awkward with someone u just met. So should i suggest doin a drink after work rather than meet for lunch? Is it a bad idea to suggest a drink for tom night, cuz then it will look like i got nothin to do on a friday night?
Dont call her immediately. Wait a few days. You dont want to look too disperate.
 

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Dont call her immediately. Wait a few days. You don't want to look too disperate.
That's the worst mythical advice I've seen propagated time and time again since 2001 on this forum. There's no such thing as a waiting period, especially waiting periods based on arbitrary values. Three days? Why not two days? Four days? Is three days like the three strikes rule from baseball invented by somebody nobody remembers from the early 1800s?

Master Don Juans do what they need to do when they need to do it. They don't wait. They just do.

Call her when you have the opportunity, and obviously at the appropriate time for the appropriate breakfast, lunch, or dinner. It doesn't matter when. It just matters that you call and make something happen. "[Sarah], you met me on the train yesterday. Let's meet up at [Joe's Cafe] to get some grub." Oh, you're not hungry? She's not hungry? It doesn't matter. You're not meeting up with her to eat or drink. You're meeting up with her to have a musically flowing conversation that lands you in the right position.
 
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Congrats you actually picked up a chick in an "uncommon" situation... Keep going bro.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Demon said:
That's the worst mythical advice I've seen propagated time and time again since 2001 on this forum. There's no such thing as a waiting period, especially waiting periods based on arbitrary values. ..
I agree.
 

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than a meal cuz meals are awkward with someone u just met
Why do you say that? I don't mind a meal on a first date, at least if you hate her you go home well fed, or line your stomach to go drinking afterwards!! :)
 

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Congrats you actually picked up a chick in an "uncommon" situation... Keep going bro.
Thanks man, the amazing thing is i think i looked my worst in months, bags under my eyes cuz of lack of sleep, acne, uncombed hair, patchy ugly beard. And I was just bein myself, i never expected a girl like that would be interested in me so it was if i was talkin to an ugly chick and was totally calm and cool. The only thing i made sure i did was eye contact the enitre time. I cant say oh its looks dont matter tho cuz girls r always into my eyes, i got really light eyes. They all tell me that, so im not so sure i can say that, but it did really make me question my current beliefs bout girls.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
You should have said "We should do lunch tomorrow" and sidestepped all the mental turmoil you're causing yourself.

Just call her and ask what her schedule looks like. If she shows signs of being free sooner than later it could mean that she has a fairly high IL. If so, don't let it go to waste.

Well i didnt wanna appear desperate. This way dont i seem busier?
 

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I forgot to mention one detail. On the way out of the train (my stop is the one before hers.) I was a little awkward bout saying goodbye, i said "well it was nice meetin u" She said somethin that i did not hear. But i coulda swore she said, "yea u too, so u gonna call me tom for lunch?" But i really wasnt sure if that wat she said it was so noisy on the train. So i said, wat? and she said "oh goodnite" and then i said no i missed wat u said before that. And she goes "oh nothin just goodnight and she smiled" so then i felt flustered and i dorkily said oh ok, smiled and said "goodnight, bye!"

Goodnight, bye! it sounded retarted. Hope that didnt mess it up lol Do u think she was just embarassed to repeat herself in front of the whole train?
I bet thats it right?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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afc_2_dj said:
Why do you say that? I don't mind a meal on a first date, at least if you hate her you go home well fed, or line your stomach to go drinking afterwards!! :)
Well it is expensive. I used to think like u till i spent 105 bucks on my last dat. Girl ordered 3 f'in glasses of wine!
 

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I don't think something like that could blow it..

Put it this way.. You approached once... You got the "track record" you can do it again. That is the biggest fear of most people you did it.. Call her and see where it goes.

You are in control of yourself, not of her. So focus on your actions not hers.
 

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DJinTraining06 said:
Well i didnt wanna appear desperate. This way dont i seem busier?
What's more important, your ego or getting together with a woman who's you've clicked with and has shown an interest in you? But if you want to go that route it wouldn't have hurt to do lunch or drinks after work, something quick and brief. That way you would still have the evening free do whatever you want (with or without her).

Another option is to set the meeting for some day in the future, if not tomorrow, sometime next week or whenever. Don't fall into the trap that most guys do by being ambiguous with your objective.
 

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Well it is expensive. I used to think like u till i spent 105 bucks on my last dat. Girl ordered 3 f'in glasses of wine!
I hear 'ya. I don't think it's worth it for someone that you don't even know that you'll like. That'll drain your wallet really quick if you go out with women 2 or 3 times a week.
 

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I just called the girl to ask if she wanted to grab a drink after work and she said she had to do go to her sisters, so i said how bout lunch and she said she goes out with girls for lunch on friday. But she said she thinks a drink next week would be good.

So i emailed her back and said i'd give her a ring at some pt.

Ok so when should i call her? Sunday night? Is monday too desperate looking? Hows wednesday? I know i know a DJ does wat he wants. but im not a DJ so gimme some advice lol. I think i made a suave comment tho, at the end of the email i said:

"Did anbody ever tell you, u look like Reese Witherspoon?"

She responded, "yea i got that before, but i dont see it, LOL!"

sounds like she liked that right?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Here's some things to remember:
  1. Popular people tend to make plans for the weekend (Friday-Sunday) before the weekend. Don't wait to the last minute (Friday) to make plans with a new interest unless they let you know that they let you know that they are free.
  2. Stop leaving things up in the air, be specific in what you are going to do. Don't tell her that you are going to call her "some time," do you expect her to be available at the same time that you are? Would you wait around by the phone waiting for a woman to call you if you had no idea when she would call? (Don't answer that).
  3. If something could easily be said about her by anyone else (that she looks like someone, that she has beautiful eyes, etc.), don't say it. Be original, say something that will make you memorable. Tell her something that any guy off the street would say will classify you as just another guy off the street.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Here's some things to remember:
  1. Popular people tend to make plans for the weekend (Friday-Sunday) before the weekend. Don't wait to the last minute (Friday) to make plans with a new interest unless they let you know that they let you know that they are free.
  2. Stop leaving things up in the air, be specific in what you are going to do. Don't tell her that you are going to call her "some time," do you expect her to be available at the same time that you are? Would you wait around by the phone waiting for a woman to call you if you had no idea when she would call? (Don't answer that).
  3. If something could easily be said about her by anyone else (that she looks like someone, that she has beautiful eyes, etc.), don't say it. Be original, say something that will make you memorable. Tell her something that any guy off the street would say will classify you as just another guy off the street.
I don't plan on makin plans for the drink on the weekend, i was thinking mon-thrus night next week since we both work near wall street. I think i played it ok. I was gonna call her Sunday night maybe to make plans for monday night or wed night. i gave her my number so shed know its me callin, so i don't see that as so bad, is it? She did have beautiful eyes but i felt that would be creepy. I like sayin that in person. U think sunday night is ok?
 

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If you are an AlphaMale you will call her whenever you desire to do so, congratulations, it is great to read a positive post like this on here for once, just relax and enjoy the girls company. :yes:
 

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PigAdlemPimp said:
If you are an AlphaMale you will call her whenever you desire to do so, congratulations, it is great to read a positive post like this on here for once, just relax and enjoy the girls company. :yes:

Well thanks, but that doesn't tell me much lol. What i desire to do is see her as soon as possible and bang her, but we dont always get to do wat we desire do we?. If u were me, wat would u do? I have her cell now. SHe said she couldnt do lunch and shes busy tonite. is it dumb to ask bout tomorow night? Cuz then it looks like i got no life, and plsu she prob will already have plans cuz she looks very cute. Or should i just wait till like sunday night and call her to ask bout gettin a drink after work at 5 on monday? I kinda need a haircut anyway, will it hurt to wait that long?
 

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If you want to see her as soon as possible you better contact her as soon as you can, remember she was the one who was flirting with you first, which means she must be attracted to you, you have nothing to lose if you call her immediately. :cool:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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