"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm having an extremely hard time doing this lately. I have girls with sky high interest in me at a party, but then I'll try to isolate by saying something like "Hey wanna go for a walk?" and it usually doesn't work. I think they might know what's up.

Does anyone have any tips on this? It's really the only part of my game that's lacking right now.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Hah! "hey wanna go for a walk" used to work about 4 years ago. I think every girl over 18 has heard that line once or twice already, and accepted.

It can work, but it's such an easy line.

If you want to use that line make sure you let the tension build up high and ask it during the climax. Make her wait for it.
 

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I don't think the attraction level is "sky high" if she doesn't want to be isolated. Girls know exactly what's up. They're not stupid. If they're decently attractive there's a good chance they've been getting hit on since they were 14. If they're horny, they'll gladly give it up.

The fact that you seem to be trying to hide your agenda tells me that you might be doing it wrong. Don't try to hide your intentions. If it's your aim to plow her, let her know it. You don't communicate it with words but you demonstrate it through eye contact, voice tone, touching her etc.
 

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Lexington said:
I don't think the attraction level is "sky high" if she doesn't want to be isolated. Girls know exactly what's up. They're not stupid. If they're decently attractive there's a good chance they've been getting hit on since they were 14. If they're horny, they'll gladly give it up.

The fact that you seem to be trying to hide your agenda tells me that you might be doing it wrong. Don't try to hide your intentions. If it's your aim to plow her, let her know it. You don't communicate it with words but you demonstrate it through eye contact, voice tone, touching her etc.
That's what I've been doing and I get IOIs back all the time.. For instance, last night I was with this girl at a party. I got lots of eye contact from her, kino'd etc.. She seemed really into me, but I asked her if she wanted to go for a walk and she politely said "no" but she did give me her number. My phone wasn't working so I had her write it down for me.

I was even teasing her a bit and noticed her qualifying herself to me. She also said at one point "You know, you're pretty good looking. I bet you could bang any girl you want"
 

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don't ask

lead

grab her hand and take her with you

also there's no way this is the "only part of your game that is lacking" if you've never inserted your penis into a vagina

no offense intended
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Aaron B said:
don't ask

lead

grab her hand and take her with you

also there's no way this is the "only part of your game that is lacking" if you've never inserted your penis into a vagina

no offense intended
True, well I'm a great conversationalist and can create attraction no problem.. It's just escalating that holds me back right now. I like what you said here though, it's so basic. I was thinking "Maybe I can go to the store with her down the street, maybe I can show her a cool spot by the river.." etc.

I guess by doing this, I'm putting the chick on a pedestal. I'm thinking up excuses to be alone with her when I don't have to. I just have to lead her to where I want.
 

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Aaron B said:
don't ask

lead

grab her hand and take her with you
I will have to agree. I can tell you that I got a date with the girl I mentioned, and she was acting stuck-up the whole entire time. I let her know I didn't think I'd be seeing her again and she got all puppy-eyed. Good for her :).


I can tell you that a lot of girls will think you are a chump, no matter how much inner game you have, until they see an example of you taking the lead/not giving a Fvck. I prefer not to spend time on girls like this. First they don't give a fvck about you, and suddenly they like you?? I say Fvck off to girls like that. A girl should like you from day 1.
 
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