Pharma CEO assasinated!!

[Vending Machine Veteran]

From what I've seen, he had a botched back surgery. There is an image floating around of the screws in his back. Apparently, he was in so much pain that it ruined his life.

Which tracks, if you compare the old picture of him jacked!, to to his current physique.

He was an active guy: lifted weights, hiked, rock climbed. And after the botched back surgery, he can't do anything.

And I'm with @AmsterdamAssassin he must have wanted to be caught. He's intelligent enough to ditch the murder weapon and change clothes...

Or maybe he is just a patsy. Who knows...

 

[Clockwerk50]

High hobby horses have haughty halos, however.

(Then again, getting high is the only way to get above water)

You can hear the keystrokes from the other side of the pond as he gets mad, trying to one-up everyone with his lies lmao

 

[BillyPilgrim]

You can hear the keystrokes from the other side of the pond as he gets mad, trying to one-up everyone with his lies lmao

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With the Maine Coon digging its claws in, hanging on for dear life.

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

There's no maybe. I don't want to be a "leader in this forum".

If I cared about this forum, I would've applied for moderator status. Or advertised myself as PUA like you, but I'm merely here to observe and provoke, so you lot give me interesting fodder for my research into toxic masculinity.

And you're doing a fine job already, so consider this encouragement to keep going. It's entertaining.

Oh, same goes for Billy. Absolutely hilarious.

I went on a date last night. First time in a while. And yeah, it was with the sexting ass b1tch, but she got a good job recently, so why not

We're sitting there, and I'm being reminded of why I don't like this woman...

Then I overheard the date next to us. Well, mostly I heard the dude being a try-hard. My old lady said they were gen z and I'll have to take her word for it, as I didn't look much.

I remember overhearing the dude doing most of the talking and trying to impress the young lady with the job he wanted to get. He talked too much. I didn't hear her speak much.

See where he fvcked up? He was going out of his way to impress her. He cared too much about the outcome. He didn't hold the frame.

If he would have played it more cool, with outcome independence, she wouldn't have been such a frigid b1tch.

Never go out of your way to impress a woman. Learn how to casually make her impress you. And it has to be subtle. You can't lay it on thick.

Ask the woman questions. Make her justify herself and her decisions. "Why would you major in that?" Etc. and keep her feet to the fire. Make her justify herself to you!

Always remember that you're a boss. Because I told you so.

Act like you have a set of nuts.

 

[Clockwerk50]

There's no maybe. I don't want to be a "leader in this forum".

If I cared about this forum, I would've applied for moderator status. Or advertised myself as PUA like you, but I'm merely here to observe and provoke, so you lot give me interesting fodder for my research into toxic masculinity.

And you're doing a fine job already, so consider this encouragement to keep going. It's entertaining.

Oh, same goes for Billy. Absolutely hilarious.

You can lead without being a moderator, but according to you, you're just here to make the forum a worse place for everyone. Got it.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Another misinterpretation, but I'm not going to dumb down for you anymore.

• If I cared about this forum, I would've applied for moderator status. Or advertised myself as PUA like you - this implies that if you truly cared about the forum, you would have applied for moderator status or promoted yourself as a PUA, but since you haven't done either, it shows you have no real interest in improving or engaging meaningfully with the community.
• but I'm merely here to observe and provoke - you admitted to being here only to observe and provoke, implying that your actions are disruptive and contribute negatively to the forum, turning it into a place for you to gather "fodder" for their own research into toxic masculinity.

Get off that high horse, man. There's no "dumbing down" here; you literally confessed to these things. So selfish. Maybe take the L and move on.

 

[Vanderdonck]

You pay taxes, but did you decide how and where your taxes are spend? No, you didn't. Do you put money/wealth over human lives? I don't think you did. Even the fact that you think about the blood on your hands shows that you're a moral person. Yes, you voted, as is your democratic duty, but you're not a legislator. You didn't wilfully intend for your (mandatory) taxes to fund a war.

Brian Thompson was instrumental in making health insurance profitable by wilfully and intentionally using illegal and highly immoral ways to deny/delay claims that caused millions of people to suffer needlessly and even caused patients to die (or die sooner).


All these products are subject to free choice. Even addictive substances like tobacco. People choose to poison their bodies with tobacco and processed foods.
And you say you 'worked', so past tense. Why don't you work for them anymore? Is it because you grew a conscience?

Let me put it this way:

Industrial waste pollutes America’s drinking water – Center for Public Integrity

This report is part of a project on drinking water contamination in the United States produced by the Carnegie-Knight News21 program. PHOENIX – In Ringwood, New Jersey, Ford Motor Co. dumped more than 35,000 tons of toxic paint sludge onto lands occupied for centuries by the Turtle Clan of the...

publicintegrity.org

Industries don't keep to the laws around environmental protection and wilfully put toxic industrial waste in the drinking water.
Who decides to do that? The government? The workers at the factory? Or the CEO that decides that dumping the waste in the river is cheaper than using the safe but expensive waste disposal?
We could argue that the CEO is only 'doing his job' by increasing the profits for the board of directors and the shareholders, but 'with great power comes great responsibility'. Knowingly causing suffering and death is immoral.

Now people's loved ones get sick and some even die because of this toxic drinking water. The illegal dumping of toxic waste is discovered and the concerned citizens warn the government. The EPA is put to the task. From the article linked above:

Let's be positive and assume the EPA actually do their job and the company gets charged for breaking environmental laws and endangering the public. However, with all their money, the company can afford lawyers who drag out the court case and meanwhile the company keeps ignoring the law and keep dumping their toxic waste. The smiling CEO fills the company's coffers and all the other greedy muppets clap him on the back for doing such a great job. Here, have another bonus.

When that happens, who is surprised when someone decides to shoot that slimy CEO? I think that anyone who puts greed and avarice over human lives deserves to be removed from society. I would prefer incarceration, but if the law cannot get to them?

Does killing the perpetrators solve the problem? Probably not, but at least the whole world suddenly understands that the situation is more dire than a few people getting diarrhoea from drinking tap water.


Only a lunatic would shoot the CEO's secretary for denying and delaying health insurance claims.
Only a lunatic would shoot the CEO's secretary for toxic waste dumping.
Only a lunatic would shoot an ordinary tax payer for funding a war.

Then again, America has a lot of trigger-happy lunatics itching to be vigilantes, so maybe you'd want to invest in body armour.

Appreciate your points here. My take on taxes and voting are more radical, I admit. I know what the govt does so any participation is complicity. My only defense is that I was extorted. Henry Thoreau went to jail though.

 

[Clockwerk50]

You're just upset because I provoked you into lashing out like a toddler.

It's okay, my opinion of you is a lot lower than your opinion of me.

So you are a mind reader now, there is nothing you cannot do, is it?

Once again, your responses shifted from discussing the actual issue to personal attacks and mockery. Calling my story “pathetic” and using straw man arguments only distracts from the serious topic of healthcare injustice. I’ve stated multiple times that I didn’t make the comparison you claim I did, yet you continue to misrepresent my point. It’s clear from your angry tone—calling me a "toddler" and "dildo"—that you’re escalating the situation rather than engaging in meaningful dialogue or addressing the core issue. You’ve also openly admitted that you're here to provoke and stir up conflict for your own entertainment. A friendly advice, you should look into this validation seeking behaviour.

It is ok if you do not like me, so hopefully we do not talk again. However, if we do, please remind me that your maturity level is inversely proportional to your age.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi All,
This post has really lifted the scales from my eyes....We have a tax payer funded "Free Medical System"down here,I shall never complain about it again...You do have to be patient,but eventually they "sort you out"....My Sister lives in an Outback Town,she lived with Cataracts for a couple of years,when there was a critical mass of similar patients in the area,a mobile unit from Adelaide came up and did an assembly line service,flew dozens of Folk to A border town fixed them all up...She complains about the Taxi Fare to the Airstrip LOL.

 

[zekko]

Nobody should get paid $10M per year.

I think people should be able to make however much they can make. If you can make $10 million a year, more power to you.

 

[zekko]

I think people should realise that with the power of wealth comes responsibility. A responsible person wouldn't put money over human life and put profits before patients. Behave like a Bond villain and someone starts to think you're evil incarnate and feels justified in blowing your head off.

That sounds like three separate issues though, even if they might be related in this case. There's how much money corporate CEOs make, there's the healthcare issue, and then there's the issue of thinking you have the right to end another person's life.

 

[The Duke]

The head of United Healthcare Group, Andrew Witty, the parent company of United Healthcare, wrote that he understands “people’s frustrations” with the American health care system.

“No one would design a system like the one we have. And no one did. It’s a patchwork built over decades. Our mission is to help make it work better,”

Who here believes his mission was to make it work better? And for whom? The people, or the United HealthCare executives?

Him(made 23.5M last year) and Brian Thompson have been at it for years, at the top of the food chain, yet haven't done a damn thing to alleviate people's frustrations. United Healthcare has spent about 50 million in the last 10years lobbying Congress. Why do you suppose they gave so much to lobbyists that tried to persuade Congress to act in their favor? Why not put that 50 million towards claim payouts? Ohh yeah because Brian and Andrew would have been left out in the cold and missed out in millions of compensation. The stock price wouldn't have went from $200 a share to over $500 a share in 4yrs with out those at the the top maximizing income and minimizing expenses. Don't need an economics degree to understand that concept. But I'm sure one with a law degree could twist it up for us.

If you want the answers you follow the money. Its always been that way. Live by the sword, die by the sword. I guess it was Brian's time.

 

[The Duke]

That sounds like three separate issues though, even if they might be related in this case. There's how much money corporate CEOs make, there's the healthcare issue, and then there's the issue of thinking you have the right to end another person's life.

So I ride upon you in the desert where you laid for several days, lips dry and blistered, skin burned....you are about to die from dehydration and I have 2 canteens full of water, should I share? Do I not have some responsibility because I was blessed with the wealth of extra water that could keep you alive? Ultimately I could end your life by depriving you of water. Or is it 3 separate issues?

 

[BillyPilgrim]

User name checks out ^

 

[Bokanovsky]

He smiled into security cameras.
If you read into him, you'll find that his mother was a victim of this health insurance. This CEO was directly involved in the constantly changing terms and conditions regarding coverage that his ailing mother suffered needlessly to fill the pockets of the board of directors and stockholders.

I don't know about that. By all accounts, this guy's family is very wealthy. If his mother was suffering, I doubt it had anything to do with insurance coverage. From what I've read, the guy lost the plot because of his own health issues which also likely had nothing to do with insurance. Apparently, he was born with a spine defect that causes him to experience excruciating pain. It either couldn't be treated or the doctors didn't do a good job.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I don't know about that. By all accounts, this guy's family is very wealthy. If his mother was suffering, I doubt it had anything to do with insurance coverage. From what I've read, the guy lost the plot because of his own health issues which also likely had nothing to do with insurance. Apparently, he was born with a spine defect that causes him to experience excruciating pain. It either couldn't be treated or the doctors didn't do a good job.

Dude has a ripped physique for having debilitating, excruciating back pain, just sayin'

 

[Bokanovsky]

Dude has a ripped physique for having debilitating, excruciating back pain, just sayin'

FYI

https://apnews.com/article/luigi-ma...ental-health-35086d2e01089f53db7b95e7b6c683e4

 

[Gamisch]

I think people should be able to make however much they can make. If you can make $10 million a year, more power to you.

Your own business or a business that was started from zero? Go ahead. Government funded/ obligated business? 1 mil per year max. I'd even say 200k max. Isn't 200 k enough to live a comfortable life? When you wanna get ahead and earn more you can use your Government ceo experience to level up. But Government-obliged functions shouldn't be businesses to begin with!

I am not from the US ,but oh lord I felt the public's outrage inmy heart and soul.

If we stand aside and slowly die, we might as well die for a ccause. That's how the entire map was created; through blood and balls from those willing to either conquer or defend.

 

[Gamisch]

This is how deep the pain goes. People (rightfully so) view Luigi as a hero.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Your own business or a business that was started from zero? Go ahead. Government funded/ obligated business? 1 mil per year max. I'd even say 200k max. Isn't 200 k enough to live a comfortable life? When you wanna get ahead and earn more you can use your Government ceo experience to level up. But Government-obliged functions shouldn't be businesses to begin with!

I am not from the US ,but oh lord I felt the public's outrage inmy heart and soul.

If we stand aside and slowly die, we might as well die for a ccause. That's how the entire map was created; through blood and balls from those willing to either conquer or defend.

Blaming the CEO of a health insurance company oversimplifies a deeply complex issue. Healthcare is broken due to misaligned incentives, high premiums for small business owners, denials, rising pharmaceutical costs, and more. Healthcare also isn’t free, and the same way you likely wouldn’t work for free, neither would others in our healthcare system. Real change requires deep, conceptual reforms, not cosmetic fixes. What’s even more troubling is the celebration of a man’s death, as while he was the CEO, this wasn’t his company, and CEOs are beholden to shareholders, boards, and investors, meaning the issues at hand span well beyond the CEO…

The real obstacle is the paralysis of the political system, driven by issues like gerrymandering, primaries, media that reinforces its audience’s biases, and social media users who spread false information without skepticism. Until these factors change, progress will remain out of reach, and people will continue focusing on blame instead of solutions.

In Canada, more than 70% of healthcare spending is publicly funded through general tax revenues, with provinces and territories covering 78% of the cost while the federal government covers the rest. Essentially, healthcare is 'free' in the same way public education is, and in 2022, the system spent an average of about $8,563 per Canadian on healthcare. There can still be out-of-pocket costs for things like prescription drugs, dental care, and certain medical devices, depending on the province but your employer usually covers those.