There is this girl, who has practically brushed any guy aside who tried to approach her. But when i went and asked for her email, she gave in with almost no resistance... I know i should be happy, but i dont realise why it was so easy. I didnt even fluff too much. Didnt try to create any interest. Just went directly with, 'I am interested in you' and asked for her id. Was busy for two days. Just sent a message to her. Can you guys tell me wtf is happening. She is a 9 comfortably. Fairly popular in my college and well i an quite goodlooking myself and have good amount of social proof going. But is it really supposed to be so easy??
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Perspective needed. Seems too easy to be true.
- Thread starter kokane
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Hughman
Senior Don Juan
E-mails are piss to hand out. She can block you if she gets bored of you.
Hell, mobile phone numbers are given out like candy these days.
Hell, mobile phone numbers are given out like candy these days.
Igetit!
Moderator
It's because you approached her as a MAN.kokane said:There is this girl, who has practically brushed any guy aside who tried to approach her. But when i went and asked for her email, she gave in with almost no resistance... I know i should be happy, but i dont realise why it was so easy. I didnt even fluff too much. Didnt try to create any interest. Just went directly with, 'I am interested in you' and asked for her id. Was busy for two days. Just sent a message to her. Can you guys tell me wtf is happening. She is a 9 comfortably. Fairly popular in my college and well i an quite goodlooking myself and have good amount of social proof going. But is it really supposed to be so easy??
No stumbling,bumbling,no beating around the bush.
Most guys will approach a girl and talk about anything and everything other than the two of them dating.
They won't be direct because they're scared that they'll get rejected.
To me you have the PERFECT COMBINATION WHEN YOU APPROACHED HER...
1:Being STRAIGHT FORWARD about your intentions,which shows confidence and a take-charge/go for what you want kind of attitude.
2:Boldness and fearlessness. You knew she could reject you. She knew she could reject you. And she knew that you knew she could reject you as well. The fact that you were so direct like that showed her that you cared less about getting turned down,which is attractive to a woman.
You approached her THE RIGHT WAY... as a MAN.
Listen to this: You approached her telling her WHAT YOU WANTED.
Most guys approach a girl by praising her. "You're so hot","You're gorgeous","You're beautiful",all "you","you","you".
You approached her saying "I". You put the focus on yourself...your wants and desires. You approached her as you being the prize,which is what you are.
You said you didn't fluff talk too much. It's a good thing you didn't.
My guess is she would have seen the fluffing as you tap dancing around what it was you really wanted,and thus be turned off.
Fluff doesn't cause a girl to be attracted to you,being a MAN does.
Get the attraction established FIRST. Once that's settled,then you can fluff.
If you do it the other way around,you're likely headed for the friendzone.
But listen...The way you approached her is the way you'll have to continue to act and behave. If you change,her attraction for you will too.
You can't pull the old "bait and switch".
Anyway,good luck man.
iqqi
Master Don Juan
Igetit... gets it! Lol.
Also, if she was interested in you to start with, than there is not going to be much resistance, at least not with just getting her digits or email. It is hard for a guy who is already "in" and with high IL to be ousted, believe it or not.
The guys that girls are dissing, are guys they aren't interested in.
Something about you interests her, for the time being.
You'll either raise her IL, or lower it. Have fun! Be confident, and be a man.
Also, if she was interested in you to start with, than there is not going to be much resistance, at least not with just getting her digits or email. It is hard for a guy who is already "in" and with high IL to be ousted, believe it or not.
The guys that girls are dissing, are guys they aren't interested in.
Something about you interests her, for the time being.
You'll either raise her IL, or lower it. Have fun! Be confident, and be a man.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Don't be surprised or too proud bro. Getting an e-mail is one thing, keeping her attracted is another ball game.
Why the other dudes failed was due to their sleaziness and uncoordinated approach.
For future reference, don't make a big deal out of getting a number or e-mail; and don't be proud getting a 9's number.
Looks are nothing unless she's someone that really meets your eye and interest.
Why the other dudes failed was due to their sleaziness and uncoordinated approach.
For future reference, don't make a big deal out of getting a number or e-mail; and don't be proud getting a 9's number.
Looks are nothing unless she's someone that really meets your eye and interest.
Thanks a lot friends for your perspectives. Talked to her yesterday, seems the ball is in my court. igetit, special thanks to you Man for boosting my confidence a tad bit higher. And allurre, its my first 9 man, so atleast let me enjoy for one two days man. Lol. My cousins are players themselves, but they approach a girl with lies, manipulations, buying and what not. When i show them my approach, they simply laugh. But hey, works for me. Besides i am not proud of myself. I know i have a long way to go. And i know if no one else, i will atleast have you guys to help me.